Vette Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 does the ice chamber towards the top of the stem make that much of a difference? im thinking about purchasing a KM Ice Chiller hookah and was wandering if the ice chamber is worth it or if the hot bowl would melt the ice quickly? here is the two hookahs im looking at http://www.hookah-shisha.com/p-6897-khalil-mamoon-hookah-1001nights-1-hose-hookah.html http://www.hookah-shisha.com/store/pc/viewCart.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshinx23 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 it basically does nothing, less effective then ice in vase, or really really cold water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeDave Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Although I think an ice chamber is kind of worthless, It does have it's strong points. An ice chamber hookah weighs less than a solid stem, if that's something you want to consider. An ice chamber hookah is also useful with really hot days. I don't believe in the whole "the cooler the smoke the better" philosophy, I enjoy room temperature smoking. However, if you're smoking outside on a hot summer day, an ice chamber will keep your hookah stem at an average temperature rather than just the base which will leave your stem hot. Ice in my opinion is only useful to keep hookahs at average temperatures on very hot days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vette Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='TheyCallMeDave' timestamp='1346289978' post='555408'] Although I think an ice chamber is kind of worthless, It does have it's strong points. An ice chamber hookah weighs less than a solid stem, if that's something you want to consider. An ice chamber hookah is also useful with really hot days. I don't believe in the whole "the cooler the smoke the better" philosophy, I enjoy room temperature smoking. However, if you're smoking outside on a hot summer day, an ice chamber will keep your hookah stem at an average temperature rather than just the base which will leave your stem hot. Ice in my opinion is only useful to keep hookahs at average temperatures on very hot days. [/quote] thanks! with that being said could someone point me in the right direction for a good hookah? im looking for something rather tall (24inch +) and under $165. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeDave Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Are you wanting an ice chamber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vette Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='TheyCallMeDave' timestamp='1346299122' post='555423'] Are you wanting an ice chamber? [/quote] after reading this and some reviews, nah it doesnt really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CO_hookah Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 With your budget and specifications, I would HIGHLY recommend this hookah: http://5starhookah.com/Khalil-Mamoon-Pharonie-KMPMS.htm This is what I have and I love it. Smokes like a champ. It will last you forever. Plus, it's a good price! Leaves you extra money for tobacco! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I've with Dave. I prefer a room temperature smoke, as I feel icing down the hookah impairs the flavor. Only flavor where I actually do kinda like the smoke cold is mint. Done this many times with Tangiers Cane Mint before I got burned out on it (not the Cane Mint's fault, I just got tired of smoking mint). No matter the brand, mint is typically such a strong flavor, you won't notice any flavor loss by adding ice. I only recommend an ice chamber if you like the way it looks. If you are strictly wanting one for the ice factor, I'd pass. As Dave said, I can only see it really making a difference if you're outside on a hot day. I typically smoke inside so that's never an issue for me. Some of them can be really pretty, though! The old KM chillers were pretty badass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezxen Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='TheyCallMeDave' timestamp='1346289978' post='555408'] Although I think an ice chamber is kind of worthless, It does have it's strong points. An ice chamber hookah weighs less than a solid stem, if that's something you want to consider. An ice chamber hookah is also useful with really hot days. I don't believe in the whole "the cooler the smoke the better" philosophy, I enjoy room temperature smoking. However, if you're smoking outside on a hot summer day, an ice chamber will keep your hookah stem at an average temperature rather than just the base which will leave your stem hot. Ice in my opinion is only useful to keep hookahs at average temperatures on very hot days. [/quote] Daves right Only time i ever put ice in my Km Ice is when its 100+ and i want to smoke other than that there is no noticeable effects from it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Check Caravan Hookahs. They sell on eBay. I got my KM Sig Ice from them and I love it. Smokes great, looks great. I have only put ice in it once. I just wanted it for looks. http://stores.ebay.com/Caravan-Trading-Group?_rdc=1 Kinda looks like they just have their own brand up right now. But they do get KMs every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vette Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='CO_hookah' timestamp='1346311715' post='555431'] With your budget and specifications, I would HIGHLY recommend this hookah: [url="http://5starhookah.com/Khalil-Mamoon-Pharonie-KMPMS.htm"]http://5starhookah.c...ronie-KMPMS.htm[/url] This is what I have and I love it. Smokes like a champ. It will last you forever. Plus, it's a good price! Leaves you extra money for tobacco! [/quote] this one looks nice and for good a price! i love the tri color medal! ill def keep this one in mind. but far as KMs go is all worth buying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='Vette' timestamp='1346364777' post='555486'] [quote name='CO_hookah' timestamp='1346311715' post='555431'] With your budget and specifications, I would HIGHLY recommend this hookah: [url="http://5starhookah.com/Khalil-Mamoon-Pharonie-KMPMS.htm"]http://5starhookah.c...ronie-KMPMS.htm[/url] This is what I have and I love it. Smokes like a champ. It will last you forever. Plus, it's a good price! Leaves you extra money for tobacco! [/quote] this one looks nice and for good a price! i love the tri color medal! ill def keep this one in mind. but far as KMs go is all worth buying? [/quote] I have owned a few KM's, and all the KM's i have smoked from have been awesome, As far as i know, all of their pipes are good quality, if that is what you are wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vette Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='agunn1231' timestamp='1346368087' post='555490'] [quote name='Vette' timestamp='1346364777' post='555486'] [quote name='CO_hookah' timestamp='1346311715' post='555431'] With your budget and specifications, I would HIGHLY recommend this hookah: [url="http://5starhookah.com/Khalil-Mamoon-Pharonie-KMPMS.htm"]http://5starhookah.c...ronie-KMPMS.htm[/url] This is what I have and I love it. Smokes like a champ. It will last you forever. Plus, it's a good price! Leaves you extra money for tobacco! [/quote] this one looks nice and for good a price! i love the tri color medal! ill def keep this one in mind. but far as KMs go is all worth buying? [/quote] I have owned a few KM's, and all the KM's i have smoked from have been awesome, As far as i know, all of their pipes are good quality, if that is what you are wondering. [/quote] exactly what i was asking, basically making sure i couldnt go wrong lol can someone explain why they sell so many different hookahs, i mean i know some have multi hoses, some have ice chambers. but besides that what the different besides the look? (im not getting into heights because from what ive read and heard small hookahs smoke just as good as 4ft tall ones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 i believe that it has to do with what you like the look of best, i have owned a KM chiller, because i liked the way the ice chamber looked parallel to the base, i currently have a really strange looking KM. Some people really like the look of tri-metal hookahs, some people like the pipe to just be one color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vette Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='agunn1231' timestamp='1346368695' post='555492'] i believe that it has to do with what you like the look of best, i have owned a KM chiller, because i liked the way the ice chamber looked parallel to the base, i currently have a really strange looking KM. Some people really like the look of tri-metal hookahs, some people like the pipe to just be one color. [/quote] ahh i see, what about copper down stem? i see some KMs have that and boldly annouce that its copper down stem, reasoning for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Copper stems will oxidize over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vette Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 good or bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 indifferent from what i've read on here. you can do a search for copper downstem on here and read up on it. I dont know much about them, as i havent had a copper pipe, but i am sure others here know all the in's and outs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 we have two of the km ice chillers and they are poop they are only cold for a couple minutes then it melts then you have just water and its annoying to clean out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSmokes Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 [url="http://www.hookahforum.com/topic/44786-kasbah-hookah-bazaar-official-thread/page__pid__555464__st__80#entry555464"]http://www.hookahforum.com/topic/44786-kasbah-hookah-bazaar-official-thread/page__pid__555464__st__80#entry555464[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Ice chambers keep the smoke from getting super hot rather than making the smoke cold. If you put a ton of ice in the chamber when you are outside on a hot day, they do help. Works best on hot days when smoking outside as others have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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