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Ok so I was looking at another place today and saw john got picks went to look in to buying one and he is selling the #8 picos at 35 fucking dollars. I know tang is low but that is way too steep. The fuck has this world come to first 5star and their overpriced km's with boos now johns picos
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Glad I picked up 2 on 5star with some shisha (friend need some shisha too so it was win win lol). It feels like production has been extremely slow lately...I'm still waiting to get my hands on the melon and purple candy birquq...it's been out of stock for 4-5+ months now.
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[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1348173937' post='556860']
Glad I picked up 2 on 5star with some shisha (friend need some shisha too so it was win win lol). It feels like production has been extremely slow lately...I'm still waiting to get my hands on the melon and purple candy birquq...it's been out of stock for 4-5+ months now.
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The only place I've seen those in stock is on a banned vendors site, sigh.
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yah they are still trying to catch up on production. but the picos are SUPER hard to get perfect because they are all hand made, but i LOVE my small i enjoy teh pico and the #7 also but prefer my small.
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[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1348173937' post='556860']
Glad I picked up 2 on 5star with some shisha (friend need some shisha too so it was win win lol). It feels like production has been extremely slow lately...I'm still waiting to get my hands on the melon and purple candy birquq...it's been out of stock for 4-5+ months now.
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same i actually liekd the 5star package deal

and yeah i jsut made an order and was hoping to get some birquq but they haven't had any goood flavours in stock for soo long
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Ok so I was looking at another place today and saw john got picks went to look in to buying one and [b]he is selling the #8 picos at 35 fucking dollars[/b]. I know tang is low but that is way too steep. The fuck has this world come to first 5star and their overpriced km's with boos now johns picos
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personally, this is why i dont shop with john.... were we not ALL in the understanding that the Pico was going to be a regular production bowl? *LIMITED*? for fucks sake... everything is limited. i can only buy so many small tang phunnels before the stock runs out and more need to be made. his business ethics drive me up my damn wall. lets not get me started on any of my personal vendettas.

what a joke....

Alex

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Here's a few points that I just want to put out there:

a) Market Price is based on Supply/Demand. Demand is high, Supply is low.
B) The value has caused the demand to rise while supply is the same causing the market price to increase.
c) There is a large number of people buying Pico's and reselling them for the similar and sometimes more than $35
d) Most people find that they waste less Tangiers using a Pico which cuts cost in the long run
e) Package deals keep Tangiers bowls in the hands of Tangiers smokers
f) Everyone's cost for everything is going up
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If I was John, I would do the same thing.

Supply and demand folks.

Not pointing fingers at anyone but people forget business owners need to make a living, if they can make a bigger cut on a product why the heck wouldn't you do it, you are in it to make money. Not rip off the customer, I agree there, but he is selling something that is low in supply and super high in demand and hard to get a hold of, there is nothing wrong with that. If you don't like the price, move along.
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I don't blame John. do I think the price is high,yes. Will I pay it, probably not. but it is supply and demand and he is one of the few with the power...cut the guy some slack he's trying to make a living and live the American dream, if you don't like the prices shop elsewhere, hell take a gamble with hookahset. id rather give my money to a reputable vendor and know I'm getting what I ordered in a timely manner than pay half the price and have half my order screwed up and all the headaches that come with that...I've learned my lesson with that having hookahset mess up every order and the one they didn't fix was around 12 boxes of the wrong coals shipped to me.
ill continue to shop with hookahjohn, hookah-shisha/hookahcompany, and 5star. nazar lost my future business in light of recent events, its a shame too his coals are my favorite
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It's a hard pill to swallow, but it makes sense.

Think of it like this, if you're going months without having a product to sell, because supply is so damn low, and the product was in very high demand, you are actually LOSING a lot of money by pricing it low. These figures are made up, but just for example, say you sold about $5,000 worth of picos over 3 months, and that's with a regular supply that you don't have to worry about dwindling. If you can only get 50 bowls once every 3 months, that translates into $800 over that same 3 month period, leaving a $4200 discrepency.

In the interest of keeping your income the same, Charging $35 for it would basically equal out to what he would have made in the long run if the supply was plentiful and easy to get. So for the sake of not losing a lot of money, you have to charge more otherwise you will lose quite a bit of money because you can't just get the product with a phone call. Over time it will come down because the supply will rise with a diminishing demand (basically when everyone that wants a pico, has one.)
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Forget the Pico or any other bowls, i just got the CROWN MICRO and it TOTALLY kills the rest. Quite easily the BEST BOWL EVER MADE.

Btw. i got my for $36 as it was shipped to UK but its totaly worth it, you guys have to only pay $25. Edited by Extra Mint
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[quote name='The Messiah' timestamp='1348278017' post='556938']
I picked up a mini and a pico a few weeks ago from Eric's place. He had plenty in stock.
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shop stock and online stock totally different, for the people willing to drive over there depending where you are, its worth it. but nothing anyone on here can do about the prices online, its just what they are gonna do. even if everyone one on forums goes on strike for like hookah john site he will still sell them all.
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[quote name='Pavo21' timestamp='1348376340' post='556991']
[quote name='The Messiah' timestamp='1348278017' post='556938']
I picked up a mini and a pico a few weeks ago from Eric's place. He had plenty in stock.
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shop stock and online stock totally different, for the people willing to drive over there depending where you are, its worth it. but nothing anyone on here can do about the prices online, its just what they are gonna do. even if everyone one on forums goes on strike for like hookah john site he will still sell them all.
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Ya, I drove over 8 hours lol.
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Just placed an order on 5star, got that package deal. I feel like its more cost efficient from them. 64 plus 10 for shipping vs 35 plus ~9-10 for shipping from other vendors. Plus my tang stash was getting low, so it worked out perfectly.
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