Japanese quicklights vs. 3 Kings

[Lukasa]

Is there any substantial difference between these two quicklight coals?

[skiracerj1]

japanese coals are not quicklights, u have to use a stove or torch just lick naturals

[nuschultz]

Japanese "quicklights" are easy tospot as they have a silver coating on them, which makes them light quicker. They have to be lit via a torch or stove however.Don't confuse these with gunpowder disks like 3 Kings or Goldens. These light instantly, and require only a match, lighter, or some other flame.

[Sonthert]

Good Japanese ones are the best coals out there, in my opinion, low in sulfur, too.

[ghostofdavid]

Any brands of Japanese coals to look for?

[skiracerj1]

golden japanese coals liek the ones on hookahcompany and if u ever find the mythicla and fabled abu haitham coals get them, but im beginning to believe those to be a snipe hunt.

[Seraph]

I recently bought the Golden Charcoal and I'm very happy with them. They perform better than any other coal I've tried.

[Lukasa]

I am going to order a new ashtray and a tangiers bowl off of hookahkings. Tangiers or anybody else, can you recommend a brand of coal that Hookahkings carries? I have never used anything but 3 Kings.

[cafedelmar]

the japanese coals are really difficult to light without a stove. the ones i have (got them with my hookah) have a bit of a mushroom like smell too.

[Lukasa]

[quote name='cafedelmar']the japanese coals are really difficult to light without a stove. the ones i have (got them with my hookah) have a bit of a mushroom like smell too.[/quote]

[Sonthert]

Of the charcoal on Hookah Kings, three Kings is the best. I recently stumbled across an older name in Japanese coals...I forget the manufacturer...I'll look it up. We used to use a cigarette lighter to light our Japanese coals.Most people, don't realize, when you are looking at the flame from a lighter or burner or whatnot, the center flame, that's a different cooler isn't hot enough to light anything. Its the outer flame thats hot. If you do use a lighter, hold the coal in the very tip of the yellow flame. If you light them on a gas stove and balance them on the jets, turn it on low, so the flame tips are on the coals, not on high where the cool part is on the charcoal, taking forever.P.S. the smell goes away quickly...its from the starch in the coating, I think.

[cafedelmar]

Next time I shisha (tonight?) I'll try some of them on the BBQ. Might as well save the 3Kings for when I go away

[Lukasa]

[quote name='Tangiers']Of the charcoal on Hookah Kings, three Kings is the best.  [/quote] Really... hmmm... not even those "fingers" are better? I have only ever smoked with 3 Kings and so I constantly feel like im missing out by not using "finer" coals.

[Onion]

[quote name='Tangiers']Of the charcoal on Hookah Kings, three Kings is the best. I recently stumbled across an older name in Japanese coals...I forget the manufacturer...I'll look it up. We used to use a cigarette lighter to light our Japanese coals.  Most people, don't realize, when you are looking at the flame from a lighter or burner or whatnot, the center flame, that's a different cooler isn't hot enough to light anything. Its the outer flame thats hot. If you do use a lighter, hold the coal in the very tip of the yellow flame. If you light them on a gas stove and balance them on the jets, turn it on low, so the flame tips are on the coals, not on high where the cool part is  on the charcoal, taking forever.[/quote] I thought the hottest part of the flame is the clear area where blue meets orange. Wouldnt it be best to try to elevate the blue portion then?

[Lukasa]

[quote name='Onion'] I thought the hottest part of the flame is the clear area where blue meets orange. Wouldnt it be best to try to elevate the blue portion then?[/quote] Yeah, I always thought that the very tip of the inner blue cone of flame was the hottest. Could be wrong though.edit: WHOA! I just googled this and apparently the blue part of the flame IS hotter, but for some reason the tip of the orange flame makes things catch on fire quicker. google "hottest part of flame"

[cafedelmar]

Tried the Japanese and got a real good smoke out of them. Two coals at a time worked great, heated the bowl well, and it never got harsh. Heat management was easy.The best part was the fact that they didn't ash all over the place like the 3K. And even though they don't light up instantly, after a bit of time on the BBQ near the flame the corner lit up, and within a couple minutes the whole thing was bright red.

[Seraph]

[quote name='cafedelmar']Tried the Japanese and got a real good smoke out of them. Two coals at a time worked great, heated the bowl well, and it never got harsh. Heat management was easy.  The best part was the fact that they didn't ash all over the place like the 3K. And even though they don't light up instantly, after a bit of time on the BBQ near the flame the corner lit up, and within a couple minutes the whole thing was bright red.[/quote] Which Japanese was this? I've had much the same experience with the Golden Japanese Charcoal. Lights fairly easy, 2 coals at a time makes for a perfect smoke, easy heat management, very little ash. Like I said before, I'm very happy with them and have gotten pretty good at managing them (not that you need to do much).