ezxen Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 First off love the little Guy love the logevity of the bowl, but have mayby a heat issue. so nothing wrong in terms of smokeing just not getting normal thunder clouds from tangiers. Useing two quarter exoticas normal tight pack ,mimon acclimated. Tried more coal (another) no real change other than hotter smoke (Smoke is good and tastefully as good as normal smoke just lack tangiers thunder clouds any suggestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezxen Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Edit: wife says I'm full of shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzbizz Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Haha. I too am having troubles getting epic clouds from my picos. Maybe its just how I'm packing it.. Not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I get decent clouds, just mess with the heat. I wrote a review of the bowl when i got it. Every so often the clouds are lacking. It's my goto bowl now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insidius Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I can't get good clouds with a Pico either, but I'm a Pico and tangiers noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 i dont have a pico.. but i have two #7s and 2 whole razans on the edges works fine for me.. only lose flavor if the coals are too far in. I've been very "whaterver" about both my packing and heat management with tangiers lately.. I just take pinches(clumps) and put it in the bowl.. then press it down a little so its just below the rim. (two pinches is good for the #7) and then throw 2 coals on.. i get easily 3-4 hours out of bowls with good flavors and wondrous flavor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSmokes Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 With the Pico, I've noticed I almost have to over pack it to get good clouds. I've tried a whole bunch of different things with it. I noticed a dense slightly over pack has yielded the best results with 2 coco flats Stonehenge with windcover. That can be too much heat for birquq though (although I've only tried birquq once with it so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Trying packing it in 3 layers against the side of the bowl. This makes it easier to pack it with a fork since most oyster forks are too big to press to the bottom of the bowl. Layer 1 is pressed to the correct density to the side of the bowl Layer 2 is pressed against the bottom and Layer 1 to the correct density Layer 3 is packed from the spire to the top of the bowl to complete the pack. Once Level 3 is packed make sure its all leveled out. The tobacco should be slightly below the outside rim and a pinch below the inside rim. As will all the other bowl and Tangiers you will poke LOTS OF BIG HOLES. [img]http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/PrincessCoyote/61D96E28-7C22-4610-A05C-05C9613E9135-2502-000001F90B97AA67.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezxen Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='Coyote' timestamp='1351260370' post='559358'] Trying packing it in 3 layers against the side of the bowl. This makes it easier to pack it with a fork since most oyster forks are too big to press to the bottom of the bowl. Layer 1 is pressed to the correct density to the side of the bowl Layer 2 is pressed against the bottom and Layer 1 to the correct density Layer 3 is packed from the spire to the top of the bowl to complete the pack. Once Level 3 is packed make sure its all leveled out. The tobacco should be slightly below the outside rim and a pinch below the inside rim. [/quote] Trying this. Right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzbizz Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Damnit! I wish i read this before I packed this bowl haha I tried making it a little fluffier instead and didn't squish it down. Same results :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 WHen I pack my pico i pack it above the rim then press the tobacco down with the foil...works forme and i get good clouds. 3 halves of a coco for AF, 2-3 halves for Nak, 3/4-2 halves of a coco for tangires...i like cutting my coals down smaller...makes me feel like I have more coal than i do lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxiety Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) for me I just put one 40mm 3 kings QL on top of the pico (it covers the entire bowl), gives me great clouds and after after 40 mins I add the wind cover and get another 25 mins of good clouds. I do pack it a little bit over the top, but still a small amount of shisha for great clouds and flavors Edited November 6, 2012 by Anxiety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insidius Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Got my Pico to smoke well using Coconara flats cut in half, then I use 3 halves on the bowl triangulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdy Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 [quote name='insidius' timestamp='1352176506' post='560031'] Got my Pico to smoke well using Coconara flats cut in half, then I use 3 halves on the bowl triangulated. [/quote] That is exactly what I do on my pico, has not failed since I got my packing technique perfected. Lasts me 2 rounds for fully cashed bowl, typically 2 hours or so of wonderful flavor and awesome smoke. I did notice that kcherry and cocoa I do have to be a bit more attentive to the coals, but its usually a place and only touch to ash coals with most others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I do two full razans on either side of the bowl hanging off the edge.. no issues and can get 2-3 rounds of coals on the bowl, rotating 1/3 of the bowl each new round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I too finally got one... holy shit this thing is tiny. [attachment=6050:IMG_0926.JPG] And the color is peacock I'm pretty sure, so it matches my Mini! Gonna smoke this tonight and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezxen Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1353364812' post='562127'] I too finally got one... holy shit this thing is tiny. [attachment=6050:IMG_0926.JPG] And the color is peacock I'm pretty sure, so it matches my Mini! Gonna smoke this tonight and see how it goes. [/quote] Is the pico smaller than the mini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 [quote name='ezxen' timestamp='1353365441' post='562129'] [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1353364812' post='562127'] I too finally got one... holy shit this thing is tiny. [attachment=6050:IMG_0926.JPG] And the color is peacock I'm pretty sure, so it matches my Mini! Gonna smoke this tonight and see how it goes. [/quote] Is the pico smaller than the mini? [/quote] Definitely. I'll take comparison pics later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 [quote name='Coyote' timestamp='1351260370' post='559358'] Trying packing it in 3 layers against the side of the bowl. This makes it easier to pack it with a fork since most oyster forks are too big to press to the bottom of the bowl. Layer 1 is pressed to the correct density to the side of the bowl Layer 2 is pressed against the bottom and Layer 1 to the correct density Layer 3 is packed from the spire to the top of the bowl to complete the pack. Once Level 3 is packed make sure its all leveled out. The tobacco should be slightly below the outside rim and a pinch below the inside rim. As will all the other bowl and Tangiers you will poke LOTS OF BIG HOLES. [img]http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/PrincessCoyote/61D96E28-7C22-4610-A05C-05C9613E9135-2502-000001F90B97AA67.jpg[/img] [/quote] haha this is how i always pack my bowls, this is what i do for everything our 7's and 8's and every other size that we have. I get great coulds from every bowl along with epic flavor, i've also never had a customer complain about flavor loss or no clouds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1353364812' post='562127'] I too finally got one... [b]holy shit this thing is tiny[/b]. [/quote] Even in your tiny hands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 [quote name='Skoozle' timestamp='1353381536' post='562173'] [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1353364812' post='562127'] I too finally got one... [b]holy shit this thing is tiny[/b]. [/quote] Even in your tiny hands! [/quote] Lol! I'm glad someone thought to mention my tiny hands. I feel proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 congrats chreees. i would like to see how much smaller the pico is to ur mini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 [quote name='king_lunchb0x' timestamp='1353383255' post='562180'] congrats chreees. i would like to see how much smaller the pico is to ur mini. [/quote] I'll take pics tonight and upload them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Here, from left to right: 2008 Small, 2009 Mini, 2011 Mini, 2012 Pico. [IMG]http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p40/INCUBUSRATM/Hookah/IMG_2627.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p40/INCUBUSRATM/Hookah/IMG_2629.jpg[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Breaking it in with K-Cherry... Holy crap, the pull is more restricted than I'm used to! I already use Syrians which are restricted, so this adds quite a bit. Not sure how I feel about it just yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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