Kofod Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Well there's no "allround" answers when it comes to coal handling - its an art depending on your own preferences and know how and not least which hardware setup You are having (different cups screen/foil etc) so the last tough is always something you have find yourself - a little test and trial and you will get the hang of it. Well for the things that can be "passed" on. Airtight - suction on Your hand will do fine - it might not be all perfect but nothing to worry about. This is not scubadiving Holes - having holes not covered is no problem. With the rest of the "hole business" I guess you're fine - some can discus this in details to perfections - so theres always room for improvement - but theres nothing in Your hole setup that should stand in the way of a decent and pleasant smoke. Coals - what You've already done (3 halfs) is what I would advise or do myself if the smoke seemed tame. But as said there's no one answer - though if You have to put two coals or 4 halfes on You would be a little in the high end compared to normal. So where the 3 halfes fine or just an improvement but not quite good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kofod Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 About the bowl. I guess the thehookah bowl is fine - not to deep; which is very good. And glazing will give more heat than unglazed (which seems to be a good thing on your setup). Your present clay bowl - is it glazed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 are you using with a sleeve or windcover? both of those help insulate heat and get better smoke, in fact if i sue my windcover with the golden coal its sometimes gets hot enough to burn, so i sually just use the sleeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 o and if the cost of coal concerns you then i would reccomend finding a way to use 1 coal, im rather cheap and i try to make every coal count so i found a way to use 1 gold coal, it lasts a little under 2 hours, gets thick flavorful smoke the whole time, and cooks all the tobacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamaliel Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 I've been using a wind cover,I usually use 1 golden.Remember that some massel is going to smoke lighter than others.First I put my coal near the edge of the bowl,once I get a nice thick smoke I move it around the edges.You want to move the coal every few minutes.Then move the coal to the center.By this time you should be ready for another coal,at this point everything should be cooking evenly.Keep moving yer coals,and try to scrape off any ash thats on top of the bowl.This method keeps me smoking for almost 2 hours,if you find that the smoke is getting harsh,move the coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrailsgalore Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Well its a prefference thing. When i use golden coals I cut them into halves. ANd I use 3 halves for a bowl and I like them in a triangle on my bowl, this get sthe most even smoke, I think. But normally Ill use natural wood coals and Ill use two pieces to cove rthe bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamaliel Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Aye ent,I'm going to try some naturals and maybe some japanese coals once my golden supply gets down some.I've had naturals in hookah resturants,but havent tried them on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrailsgalore Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Ok cool. Gamaliel, They are a little different than quick lites becaus ethey stay hot untill they burn out. So even if you leav the coal for 20 minutes, it will still be hot , though a little smaller. With natural woods, you dont need big pieces, two pieces each the size of half a finegr will do fine. Light both, and each piece covers a different side of the bowl. This will ensure both sides are heated evenly. Also a little trick for some of you....well not really a trick but soemthing I find works. When Your coal is dying, instead of lighting anotehr one save it and just use a windgaurd. Windgaurds not only keep wind from blowing yoru coal to death, they insulate heat created by the coals, so they actually make your bowl hotter and help light the massall better. So when your coal is dying or you notice your bowl is starting to hit weak. Ash your coal, then move to a new spot on the bowl. Then put the windgaur don the bowl. If you dont have a windgaurd, you can use standard foil. The kind you would use for your bowl, get a sheet about the size of two soda cans. Wrap it around a soda can or anything round so it take steh shape of a wind gaurd. Then squeeze the top together so it looks lieka foil hat. Now place on top of your bowl and take some puffs. Youll notice more smoke and it might burn alitte, which is why you only need to do this when your coal is dying. This will ensure you use the coal up to the fullest and save on coals. If you want , you can warp anotehr sheet of foil around the bowl, then when the coal is placed on the bowl wrap teh second sheet of foil around the coal. This will heat your bowl up very well. Be carefull and monitor the bowl. This MAY burn the bowl, so you have to be cautious when doing this. But trust me, this works well. Ive been doing this for awhiel since I neve rhad a wind gaurd. And even thoguh i now have a windgaur, foil works just as well fi not better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrailsgalore Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 BTW, Im just telling peopel whatw orks for me and giving suggestion for otehr peopel to try. My way isnt THE way, but feel free to try. Just making sure thats on teh record lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamaliel Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Aye,same goes for me,there really is no perfect method,it's really more of a preference :)Many thanks ent for the tip on naturals.I always use a windcover,I live in a apartment so it's more of a safety thing for me,but I do find that the windcover keeps the bowl nice and toasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 most ppl dont seem to have a sleeve, its a steel piece similar to a tube, its fits perfectly over my bowl and i keept the walls about about a centimeter about the edge of the bowl to insulate it for more heat, as for my experimentation, i have found that more more holes isnt necesarily better, my pattern consists of only 13 holes thuswise: . . . . . . . . . . . . . i use a sharpened coat hanger, significantly thicker than a toothpick, and altho i havent experimented to see if it makes a difference, i try to keep all my holes under the coal, with my setup a single coal is plenty for thick smoke and breaking it into halves actually gets it too hot and it can burn so keep it 1 solid piece if u do wut i do, unless you dont have a sleeve, then halves might be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKOOH Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 The NERV pattern is what i use everyday. Its an awesome proven pattern. I also always use 1 golden coal at a time, 2 per bowl or session, and also the wind cover. This is a nice think smoke. I only use 2 golden coals on the bowl when i am outside and its really cold. If indoor, i only use 1 at a time. Each coal lasts about 45 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mo Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 if I use magic coal (instant), i use 2 to start it up, then continue with one, shifting it gradually in a circular motion around the edge. in cafes, where they make a huge lump of coal and break off little pieces, where u get the best smoke too. I use three medium pieces equally spread around the edge of the bowl. or 4 small pieces. Works beautifully with jap coal, i use 2 pieces, but I don't like jap coal anymore, i find it affects the taste. prefer the instant discs. one very important tip, never light coal on the foil. absolutely amateur mistake and messes things up. Always put the coal on the shisha when it is fully lit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mo Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 holes not covered is not an issue, just helps air flow when u smoke. not too many or you'll get too much air and not enough smoke. little air escaping when u do the suction test is absolutely fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staygone Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Glad they could help.-QM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 *Stuie Smacks QM* Reviving a 3 year old resolved topic....crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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