agunn1231 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 So im moving in december or january....and i have been working quite a bit...well after my move and depending on what my pay looks like, I want to treat myself to a new pipe, it has been about a year since i got a new pipe...SO i am trying to decide between Elmas 628 or a Regal hookah. I have smoked fdrom regal hookahs on many occasions at a lounge in boulder. so i know they smoke well. But i have also heard all the wonderful things about elmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CO_hookah Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) I feel like, an overwhelming majority will say Elmas. While never having smoked from a Regal, I do have to say they look pretty awesome. However, I do like Elmas a lot for their looks, but I'm not a huge fan of the restricted draw they have. I feel like, and this is going off of videos I've seen, that Regals have a more open draw. I'd say it just comes down to which kind of draw you like, and which one is more aesthetically appealing to your tastes. Also, what lounge in Boulder? I'm currently holed up in the Springs and make it up to Boulder on occasion. Edited November 16, 2012 by CO_hookah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 hookah house. they serve tangiers there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CO_hookah Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Do they really? I'll have to check it out next time I'm up there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I would say Regal. You can still use all your bowls without an adapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
â€On Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Even though I have my complaints with Regal, being that they are made locally for you, I think they are a better bet for you. I love both my Elmas pipes, but I couldn't smoke them every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 hmm that is a tough choice, the Regal are very nice and not as common. Do you prefer male port or female bowl ports? does price ply a factor...most elmas are a bit cheaper then Regal. Damn that is a tough choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Not sure about the comments with restrictive pull or not being able to smoke from an Elmas every day maybe elaborate on that Aeon? The pull is in the middle. It is between a KM and Syrian. So I wouldn't say it is restrictive. It has the happy medium of concentrated flavor and easy pull. IMHO Regals are overpriced. And an incredibly open draw is not preferred by me, just my preference. As for a converter, just buy a mya bowl port that screws onto Myas. Slap some athletic tape on the top of it and bottom of it, put a bowl grommet on the top and a bowl grommet on the bottom so they meet in the middle. Then add athletic tape to the outside of it if needed to get a snug fit into the pipe and voila, you have a metal converter that works perfectly. There are quite a few simple fixes for a converter rather than using those bulky clay ones vendors sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 I have no preference on male or female parts, nor do i mind if the pull is restrictive or open, which is why this is a tough choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='agunn1231' timestamp='1353128334' post='561828'] I have no preference on male or female parts, nor do i mind if the pull is restrictive or open, which is why this is a tough choice. [/quote] hmmm...flip a coin?? Honestly I am torn just s much as you. If it was me I would go for elmas but thats just me cause i really want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 i want both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='agunn1231' timestamp='1353131619' post='561836'] i want both! [/quote] then you know what you have to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 then just snag whatever is easier to get ahold of at the moment and then go for the other when you have the cash or are ready. I was torn between two elmas pipes that I was going to order the other day and I seriously love both so I said f it. I'll snag one now, and one in the future. It is more fun that way because then you can get excited and giddy like a schoolboy 2 different times rather than once :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
â€On Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='mattarios2' timestamp='1353122013' post='561821'] Not sure about the comments with restrictive pull or [b]not being able to smoke from an Elmas every day maybe elaborate on that Aeon?[/b] The pull is in the middle. It is between a KM and Syrian. So I wouldn't say it is restrictive. It has the happy medium of concentrated flavor and easy pull. IMHO Regals are overpriced. And an incredibly open draw is not preferred by me, just my preference. As for a converter, just buy a mya bowl port that screws onto Myas. Slap some athletic tape on the top of it and bottom of it, put a bowl grommet on the top and a bowl grommet on the bottom so they meet in the middle. Then add athletic tape to the outside of it if needed to get a snug fit into the pipe and voila, you have a metal converter that works perfectly. There are quite a few simple fixes for a converter rather than using those bulky clay ones vendors sell. [/quote] Maybe I am alone in the Elmas owners group in thinking this, but it Elmas pipes are not "heavy haulers". To draw the same amount of smoke into your lungs, without pressure, takes a bit longer. While I don't mind the restrictive draw in the slightest, some days I really just want to take massive lungfuls from the pipe and I don't want to take my time with it. I like the feeling of being able to suck as hard as I want without any back pressure developing. Then, other days I like the restrictive draw because I am not in much of a rush to do anything, don't care about massive lungfuls of smoke and I want to just savor the flavor. There is a time and place for all types of pipes, and as such, I couldn't see myself just smoking from my Elmas all the time. That, and my Papatya weighs almost 20 pounds when filled with water, so if I'm feeling lazy, that just seems like a lot of work haha. Also, I don't know about your syrians, but both my 628 and my Papatya have a more restrictive draw than my Syrians and any Syrians I've tried. I wouldn't rank it in the middle, it's more like km and regal are on one side and elmas/syrians are on the other, with some slight difference in pull between the ones on the same end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Yeah, the Elmas I had definitely had a more restrictive pull, much like my two Al Nawras hookahs. Whereas KM is wide open in comparison. I grew to prefer the tighter pull, so I stopped using my KM and eventually sold it. I'd buy another Elmas, but not sure I'd buy another KM. Tapatalk'd via iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 also if u dont have Proper heath management elmas is not for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='aeon' timestamp='1353174663' post='561867'] [quote name='mattarios2' timestamp='1353122013' post='561821'] Not sure about the comments with restrictive pull or [b]not being able to smoke from an Elmas every day maybe elaborate on that Aeon?[/b] The pull is in the middle. It is between a KM and Syrian. So I wouldn't say it is restrictive. It has the happy medium of concentrated flavor and easy pull. IMHO Regals are overpriced. And an incredibly open draw is not preferred by me, just my preference. As for a converter, just buy a mya bowl port that screws onto Myas. Slap some athletic tape on the top of it and bottom of it, put a bowl grommet on the top and a bowl grommet on the bottom so they meet in the middle. Then add athletic tape to the outside of it if needed to get a snug fit into the pipe and voila, you have a metal converter that works perfectly. There are quite a few simple fixes for a converter rather than using those bulky clay ones vendors sell. [/quote] Maybe I am alone in the Elmas owners group in thinking this, but it Elmas pipes are not "heavy haulers". To draw the same amount of smoke into your lungs, without pressure, takes a bit longer. While I don't mind the restrictive draw in the slightest, some days I really just want to take massive lungfuls from the pipe and I don't want to take my time with it. I like the feeling of being able to suck as hard as I want without any back pressure developing. Then, other days I like the restrictive draw because I am not in much of a rush to do anything, don't care about massive lungfuls of smoke and I want to just savor the flavor. There is a time and place for all types of pipes, and as such, I couldn't see myself just smoking from my Elmas all the time. That, and my Papatya weighs almost 20 pounds when filled with water, so if I'm feeling lazy, that just seems like a lot of work haha. Also, I don't know about your syrians, but both my 628 and my Papatya have a more restrictive draw than my Syrians and any Syrians I've tried. I wouldn't rank it in the middle, it's more like km and regal are on one side and elmas/syrians are on the other, with some slight difference in pull between the ones on the same end. [/quote] Yeah see, my nawras has a tighter draw than all of my elmas pipes. I don't find the elmas pipes to be restrictive at all except when compared to an egyptian. When compared to a Syrian I find the elmas waay more open. But I have heard many say that nawras/syrian pipes can vary greatly from pipe to pipe, because my nawras I have, the draw is extremely tight. So not sure what to say except, your results are completely different from mine :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='mattarios2' timestamp='1353182408' post='561886'][quote name='aeon' timestamp='1353174663' post='561867'] [quote name='mattarios2' timestamp='1353122013' post='561821'] Not sure about the comments with restrictive pull or [b]not being able to smoke from an Elmas every day maybe elaborate on that Aeon?[/b] The pull is in the middle. It is between a KM and Syrian. So I wouldn't say it is restrictive. It has the happy medium of concentrated flavor and easy pull. IMHO Regals are overpriced. And an incredibly open draw is not preferred by me, just my preference. As for a converter, just buy a mya bowl port that screws onto Myas. Slap some athletic tape on the top of it and bottom of it, put a bowl grommet on the top and a bowl grommet on the bottom so they meet in the middle. Then add athletic tape to the outside of it if needed to get a snug fit into the pipe and voila, you have a metal converter that works perfectly. There are quite a few simple fixes for a converter rather than using those bulky clay ones vendors sell. [/quote] Maybe I am alone in the Elmas owners group in thinking this, but it Elmas pipes are not "heavy haulers". To draw the same amount of smoke into your lungs, without pressure, takes a bit longer. While I don't mind the restrictive draw in the slightest, some days I really just want to take massive lungfuls from the pipe and I don't want to take my time with it. I like the feeling of being able to suck as hard as I want without any back pressure developing. Then, other days I like the restrictive draw because I am not in much of a rush to do anything, don't care about massive lungfuls of smoke and I want to just savor the flavor. There is a time and place for all types of pipes, and as such, I couldn't see myself just smoking from my Elmas all the time. That, and my Papatya weighs almost 20 pounds when filled with water, so if I'm feeling lazy, that just seems like a lot of work haha. Also, I don't know about your syrians, but both my 628 and my Papatya have a more restrictive draw than my Syrians and any Syrians I've tried. I wouldn't rank it in the middle, it's more like km and regal are on one side and elmas/syrians are on the other, with some slight difference in pull between the ones on the same end. [/quote] Yeah see, my nawras has a tighter draw than all of my elmas pipes. I don't find the elmas pipes to be restrictive at all except when compared to an egyptian. When compared to a Syrian I find the elmas waay more open. But I have heard many say that nawras/syrian pipes can vary greatly from pipe to pipe, because my nawras I have, the draw is extremely tight. So not sure what to say except, your results are completely different from mine :-)[/quote] Mind posting a pic of the Nawras you're talking about? Tapatalk'd via iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 It's the one john has. It is all silver, has a ball on the top and bottom with the cross hatches going through the middle piece. Does that ring a bell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='mattarios2' timestamp='1353187587' post='561890']It's the one john has. It is all silver, has a ball on the top and bottom with the cross hatches going through the middle piece. Does that ring a bell?[/quote] ...pic? Tapatalk'd via iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 just snagged this off of google images http://i54.tinypic.com/29bhug8.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Ah okay I see. I wonder how wide the gauge is on that one compared to mine, because my Al Nawras smokes very similar to the Elmas I used to have, the one you now own. Tapatalk'd via iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Yeah, that 618 (and all of my other elmas pipes) smoke the exact same, and it is absolutely more open than the al nawras I own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted November 18, 2012 Author Share Posted November 18, 2012 I have pretty bomb heat management, just screws up when i switch from using a smaller bowl to a larger bowl. the only time i ever purge is when im bored and want to see the smoke come out. lol some of my friends purge regularly though, so they may have difficulty smoking from an elmas. I think i may nd up with both, depends on what is easily available at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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