thebigchoker Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Hi There, I'm surveying people to see what are the coolest designs people would like to have as their mouthpiece on their hookahs. Here are a couple designs I helped develop when working with a company called Crowh Hookahs. Check out each link and please give me your feedback. Which one do you like the best? -[b]The Orb[/b]: Link: http://crownhookahs.com/shop/article_271001/%22The-Orb%22-Signature-Glass-Hookah-Mouthpiece.html?sessid=R9vHbGau78Yhyykp7hw4InyVEtQWvNp9flOplq5Z4Ioj5rKyoPo8b5tw4k99AUEk&shop_param=cid%3D7%26aid%3D271001%26 -[b]The Trumpet: [/b]Link: http://crownhookahs.com/shop/article_2151001/%22The-Trumpet%22-Signature-Glass-Mouth-Piece-%28Limited0.html?sessid=R9vHbGau78Yhyykp7hw4InyVEtQWvNp9flOplq5Z4Ioj5rKyoPo8b5tw4k99AUEk&shop_param=cid%3D7%26aid%3D2151001%26 -[b]The Pacifier:[/b] Link http://crownhookahs.com/shop/article_21001/%22The-Pacifier-v2.0%22-Glass-Hookah-Mouthpiece.html?sessid=R9vHbGau78Yhyykp7hw4InyVEtQWvNp9flOplq5Z4Ioj5rKyoPo8b5tw4k99AUEk&shop_param=cid%3D7%26aid%3D21001%26 I have many more designs I'm working on, but give me your feedback based on these three. Also, if you are addicted to hookah, what designs on a mouthpiece would you want that's unique? Instead of your typical boring straight mouthpiece, think outside the box and tell me what you would want. Maybe a design of a snake, a hot girl, a weed leaf, or anything else. GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS. Any feedback would definately helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coleman Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Any one else find this odd I thought jake works or worked for santino at crown and that jake already had an account here not trying to be a dick just wondering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 yeah.. feels like a spam/scam to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coleman Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Santino would have posted this himself if it were really for crown so can a mod please hide this or delete it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'll notify Santino of this, see what he says. Lets keep the thread open for the time being. Tapatalk'd via iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Santino has been PMed. If anyone has his phone number on hand, mind shooting him a text about this? Tapatalk'd via iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 something fishy going on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 First thing I thought of when I read this was this thread: http://www.hookahforum.com/topic/45861-crown-hookah-knock-offs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santino Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Alright, we'll skip straight to the meat and potatoes of my response before I get to my diatribe. I don't know who this dude is, and he is not associated with Crown Hookahs, nor the development of anything, period. However, thanks for the plug. That being said, I'm guessing this is one of two things: 1. Some random hookah bar / shop / website owner who has hooked up with one of Californias thousands of below average glass blowers with a brilliant idea to create glass mouth pieces, and with no real effort of his own, figure out which ones people like the best out of my line up. 2. China. Either way, I would like to reiterate what my feelings are on this situation; much like the thread Chris posted. I don't care if you make mouth pieces, have fun, knock yourself out, free enterprise, capitalism, etc. Competition is always healthy, however, what I don't like is directly knocking off someone else's hard work, and attempting to lowball the quality (thus the price) to make a quick buck. There is one serious issue with this that I have learned first hand as a consumer, and as a vendor to the hookah community - The hookah community doesn't fuck around. They are smarter than buying a glaring knock off, and as you have noticed, aren't stupid enough to believe you're actually part of my circle. They value quality, but most of all, value customer service. I provide a very personal service to the people paying my bills, I develop relationships with them, and that's something china cannot reproduce. I leave you with this, very refreshing, and heart warming ideal - Do it yourself. You want to compete? Bring your own chips to the table. You can reproduce all my mouth pieces, but you will get beat, hard, fast, without lube, and without remorse. ps. Make lots of trumpets. Make nothing but trumpets. Those are the best selling mouth pieces, EVAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 [quote name='Santino' timestamp='1355416720' post='564857'] Alright, we'll skip straight to the meat and potatoes of my response before I get to my diatribe. I don't know who this dude is, and he is not associated with Crown Hookahs, nor the development of anything, period. However, thanks for the plug. That being said, I'm guessing this is one of two things: 1. Some random hookah bar / shop / website owner who has hooked up with one of Californias thousands of below average glass blowers with a brilliant idea to create glass mouth pieces, and with no real effort of his own, figure out which ones people like the best out of my line up. 2. China. Either way, I would like to reiterate what my feelings are on this situation; much like the thread Chris posted. I don't care if you make mouth pieces, have fun, knock yourself out, free enterprise, capitalism, etc. Competition is always healthy, however, what I don't like is directly knocking off someone else's hard work, and attempting to lowball the quality (thus the price) to make a quick buck. There is one serious issue with this that I have learned first hand as a consumer, and as a vendor to the hookah community - The hookah community doesn't fuck around. They are smarter than buying a glaring knock off, and as you have noticed, aren't stupid enough to believe you're actually part of my circle. They value quality, but most of all, value customer service. I provide a very personal service to the people paying my bills, I develop relationships with them, and that's something china cannot reproduce. I leave you with this, very refreshing, and heart warming ideal - Do it yourself. You want to compete? Bring your own chips to the table. You can reproduce all my mouth pieces, but you will get beat, hard, fast, without lube, and without remorse. ps. Make lots of trumpets. Make nothing but trumpets. Those are the best selling mouth pieces, EVAR. [/quote] BOOM. Well there you have it. Good job, HF. Keep up the good work, Santino. Banning this asshat right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 So he didn't work with you huh? ok. Gonna ban his ass, but leave up the links to YOUR stuff. Hows that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 i see Chreees is on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 IP lookup shows he posted from Newport Beach, California. ISP is AT&T Internet Services. Know who that might be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 ok, he's so banned even his kids won't be able to get on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Spammers really dont last on this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santino Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1355416989' post='564858'] [quote name='Santino' timestamp='1355416720' post='564857'] Alright, we'll skip straight to the meat and potatoes of my response before I get to my diatribe. I don't know who this dude is, and he is not associated with Crown Hookahs, nor the development of anything, period. However, thanks for the plug. That being said, I'm guessing this is one of two things: 1. Some random hookah bar / shop / website owner who has hooked up with one of Californias thousands of below average glass blowers with a brilliant idea to create glass mouth pieces, and with no real effort of his own, figure out which ones people like the best out of my line up. 2. China. Either way, I would like to reiterate what my feelings are on this situation; much like the thread Chris posted. I don't care if you make mouth pieces, have fun, knock yourself out, free enterprise, capitalism, etc. Competition is always healthy, however, what I don't like is directly knocking off someone else's hard work, and attempting to lowball the quality (thus the price) to make a quick buck. There is one serious issue with this that I have learned first hand as a consumer, and as a vendor to the hookah community - The hookah community doesn't fuck around. They are smarter than buying a glaring knock off, and as you have noticed, aren't stupid enough to believe you're actually part of my circle. They value quality, but most of all, value customer service. I provide a very personal service to the people paying my bills, I develop relationships with them, and that's something china cannot reproduce. I leave you with this, very refreshing, and heart warming ideal - Do it yourself. You want to compete? Bring your own chips to the table. You can reproduce all my mouth pieces, but you will get beat, hard, fast, without lube, and without remorse. ps. Make lots of trumpets. Make nothing but trumpets. Those are the best selling mouth pieces, EVAR. [/quote] BOOM. Well there you have it. Good job, HF. Keep up the good work, Santino. Banning this asshat right now... [/quote] [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1355417030' post='564859'] So he didn't work with you huh? ok. Gonna ban his ass, but leave up the links to YOUR stuff. Hows that? [/quote] You are both scholars and gentlemen. Thanks for giving me the heads up, and thanks for leaving my links up <3 you both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 [quote name='Santino' timestamp='1355416720' post='564857'] Alright, we'll skip straight to the meat and potatoes of my response before I get to my diatribe. I don't know who this dude is, and he is not associated with Crown Hookahs, nor the development of anything, period. However, thanks for the plug. That being said, I'm guessing this is one of two things: 1. Some random hookah bar / shop / website owner who has hooked up with one of Californias thousands of below average glass blowers with a brilliant idea to create glass mouth pieces, and with no real effort of his own, figure out which ones people like the best out of my line up. 2. China. Either way, I would like to reiterate what my feelings are on this situation; much like the thread Chris posted. I don't care if you make mouth pieces, have fun, knock yourself out, free enterprise, capitalism, etc. Competition is always healthy, however, what I don't like is directly knocking off someone else's hard work, and attempting to lowball the quality (thus the price) to make a quick buck. There is one serious issue with this that I have learned first hand as a consumer, and as a vendor to the hookah community - The hookah community doesn't fuck around. They are smarter than buying a glaring knock off, and as you have noticed, aren't stupid enough to believe you're actually part of my circle. They value quality, but most of all, value customer service. I provide a very personal service to the people paying my bills, I develop relationships with them, and that's something china cannot reproduce. I leave you with this, very refreshing, and heart warming ideal - Do it yourself. You want to compete? Bring your own chips to the table. You can reproduce all my mouth pieces, but you will get beat, hard, fast, without lube, and without remorse. ps. Make lots of trumpets. Make nothing but trumpets. Those are the best selling mouth pieces, EVAR. [/quote] Funny, i kinda LIKE the trumpet. Simple yet effective. The orb is also very cool. 2 things keeping me from getting a glass mouthpiece, i break glass things and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 [quote name='Santino' timestamp='1355417264' post='564867'] [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1355416989' post='564858'] [quote name='Santino' timestamp='1355416720' post='564857'] Alright, we'll skip straight to the meat and potatoes of my response before I get to my diatribe. I don't know who this dude is, and he is not associated with Crown Hookahs, nor the development of anything, period. However, thanks for the plug. That being said, I'm guessing this is one of two things: 1. Some random hookah bar / shop / website owner who has hooked up with one of Californias thousands of below average glass blowers with a brilliant idea to create glass mouth pieces, and with no real effort of his own, figure out which ones people like the best out of my line up. 2. China. Either way, I would like to reiterate what my feelings are on this situation; much like the thread Chris posted. I don't care if you make mouth pieces, have fun, knock yourself out, free enterprise, capitalism, etc. Competition is always healthy, however, what I don't like is directly knocking off someone else's hard work, and attempting to lowball the quality (thus the price) to make a quick buck. There is one serious issue with this that I have learned first hand as a consumer, and as a vendor to the hookah community - The hookah community doesn't fuck around. They are smarter than buying a glaring knock off, and as you have noticed, aren't stupid enough to believe you're actually part of my circle. They value quality, but most of all, value customer service. I provide a very personal service to the people paying my bills, I develop relationships with them, and that's something china cannot reproduce. I leave you with this, very refreshing, and heart warming ideal - Do it yourself. You want to compete? Bring your own chips to the table. You can reproduce all my mouth pieces, but you will get beat, hard, fast, without lube, and without remorse. ps. Make lots of trumpets. Make nothing but trumpets. Those are the best selling mouth pieces, EVAR. [/quote] BOOM. Well there you have it. Good job, HF. Keep up the good work, Santino. Banning this asshat right now... [/quote] [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1355417030' post='564859'] So he didn't work with you huh? ok. Gonna ban his ass, but leave up the links to YOUR stuff. Hows that? [/quote] You are both scholars and gentlemen. Thanks for giving me the heads up, and thanks for leaving my links up <3 you both. [/quote] no problem. as you said, competition is cool, but don't use someone elses site or rep to boost your own. May i interest you in a $10 a month banner ad or vendor membership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santino Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1355417154' post='564863'] IP lookup shows he posted from Newport Beach, California. ISP is AT&T Internet Services. Know who that might be? [/quote] Haven't the slightest clue, a quick google brings up a half dozen hookah lounges. Considering the naked lady, snake, etc I'm guessing he was dealing with an importer from China, and trying to figure out what to have made. That's the kind of niche they tend to produce. Unfortunately, likely made from some kind of cheap soft glass, or sweat shop made, cheap borosilicate. Seriously, who is going to buy a mouth piece with a weed leaf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santino Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1355417462' post='564869'] [quote name='Santino' timestamp='1355417264' post='564867'] [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1355416989' post='564858'] [quote name='Santino' timestamp='1355416720' post='564857'] Alright, we'll skip straight to the meat and potatoes of my response before I get to my diatribe. I don't know who this dude is, and he is not associated with Crown Hookahs, nor the development of anything, period. However, thanks for the plug. That being said, I'm guessing this is one of two things: 1. Some random hookah bar / shop / website owner who has hooked up with one of Californias thousands of below average glass blowers with a brilliant idea to create glass mouth pieces, and with no real effort of his own, figure out which ones people like the best out of my line up. 2. China. Either way, I would like to reiterate what my feelings are on this situation; much like the thread Chris posted. I don't care if you make mouth pieces, have fun, knock yourself out, free enterprise, capitalism, etc. Competition is always healthy, however, what I don't like is directly knocking off someone else's hard work, and attempting to lowball the quality (thus the price) to make a quick buck. There is one serious issue with this that I have learned first hand as a consumer, and as a vendor to the hookah community - The hookah community doesn't fuck around. They are smarter than buying a glaring knock off, and as you have noticed, aren't stupid enough to believe you're actually part of my circle. They value quality, but most of all, value customer service. I provide a very personal service to the people paying my bills, I develop relationships with them, and that's something china cannot reproduce. I leave you with this, very refreshing, and heart warming ideal - Do it yourself. You want to compete? Bring your own chips to the table. You can reproduce all my mouth pieces, but you will get beat, hard, fast, without lube, and without remorse. ps. Make lots of trumpets. Make nothing but trumpets. Those are the best selling mouth pieces, EVAR. [/quote] BOOM. Well there you have it. Good job, HF. Keep up the good work, Santino. Banning this asshat right now... [/quote] [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1355417030' post='564859'] So he didn't work with you huh? ok. Gonna ban his ass, but leave up the links to YOUR stuff. Hows that? [/quote] You are both scholars and gentlemen. Thanks for giving me the heads up, and thanks for leaving my links up <3 you both. [/quote] no problem. as you said, competition is cool, but don't use someone elses site or rep to boost your own. May i interest you in a $10 a month banner ad or vendor membership? [/quote] PM Incoming Mush, I forgot we were discussing that some time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 We love you too, man. EDIT: Removed some info saying which of your tips I prefer... Don't want this asshat getting ideas from this thread, which was his intention in the first place. Yeah, probably wanting cheap shit from China made. It would be interesting to eventually figure out who thebigsmoker was. Errr. I mean, thebigchoker. I see Mush did a name change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 ok whoever did the subtle name change on the guy, nicely done On topic of cheap knockoffs, everything tends to get cheapo copies made at some point, but everyone knows they never match the real deal in quality... First time ive seen them do market research like this though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I am tired of cheap copies. I have 2 mouthpieces from Crown I love them. If i wanted another one I would call Santino up and get one, not get a cheap copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Not to mention no copier could ever touch his even more kickass designer pieces. I have been meaning to email him and ask about getting a custom red/black tip done, but haven't had the money on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
â€On Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I love when shit gets real here. There were so many banhammers flying at this dude, I hope he learned something from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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