Ecig Juice On Your Tobacco, I Love Doing It, Opinions?

[Insane we trust]

Last summer my friend who smokes pipe tobacco suggested mixing some of his with the sheesha, 50:50. That knocked a few of my friends out while we smoked. Later I started smoking ecigs. I decided to try the same thing, pouring ecig juice on the sheesha after packing. We had four people and two of them were laying down within 10 min. Since then we do it occasionally, especially if we plan to smoke at a party and don't want a ton of strangers hogging hoses all night. Perosnally it is the only way I ever "feel" a nicotine buzz while smoking. If anyone else has done this, or wants to comment after trying it, I'd love to hear your feedback and suggestions, especially flavor combos.

[Skoozle]

Sounds fantastic. I have heard of other people trying it and it being the same as regular tobacco. What juice do you use and how much do you put in?

The pipe tobacco thing also sounds like fun. How did that buzz compared to the one with e-juice? How did you mix that too?

[Chreees]

Interesting. I've heard Santino talk about mixing it with the steam stones, but not tobacco.

[Insane we trust]

I did it with PREMIUM EJUICE from volcanoecigs.com. I add probably around 1mL. As I said, I normally don't feel a buzz, but even that knocks me out if I smoke it too fast. The pipe tobacco was the same with a 50:50 mixture, but it wasn't as strong I don't think. My memory on that is fuzzy since I only did it once.

[HookahNoobah]

Are you guys inhaling the hookah smoke? I am a pipe smoker and can smoke all day long without getting the slightest hint of a buzz, because pipes are not traditionally inhaled, as cigars are not. I was under the impression that hookahs were not inhaled as well. Edited January 29, 2013 by HookahNoobah

[Tyler]

I inhale my hookah

[Bawhee]

yeah, hookah is generally inhaled, not always though I guess

[Chreees]

Inhaled. I don't see how you could smoke hookah without inhaling, as I've said before...

[Bawhee]

yeah, I dont see any potential for good clouds or deep long puffs, but I guess it can be done if you really wanted to

[Skoozle]

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Are you guys inhaling the hookah smoke? I am a pipe smoker and can smoke all day long without getting the slightest hint of a buzz, because pipes are not traditionally inhaled, as cigars are not. I was under the impression that hookahs were not inhaled as well.
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Yes, breath out all of your air. Empty every air sac in your lungs then re-fill them with beautiful delicious hookah smoke.

I recommended you start with Nakhla earilier. Based on this new information, I would recommend you get some Al Fakher. You might actually get a decent dose of nicotine from hookah compared to pipes and cigars which are not inhaled.

[HookahNoobah]

Oh shit. Why is it inhaled but a pipe/cigar not?

Is Al Fakher higher in nicotine than Nakhla?

In regards to the OP, I put some eJuice on a real cigarette an hour ago and found it lovely.

[Bawhee]

nak is higher in nicotine, its not washed tobacco while AF is, hookah is just generally inhaled, if you havent tried hookah yet you will understand when you do

[Pavo21]

pipe and cigar are direct heat and burning tobacco, so it doens't feel nice inhaling. hookah is warmed and or burnt depending on ur coals and its not direct, like others are.there is water as a filter. well it just gives restriction and what not

[Insane we trust]

My friend's who used to smoke pipes inhaled. One friend didn't, as for not inhaling, it's the same as the french inhale, but without the french.

@bawhee, it actually made our clouds thicker.

[Chreees]

Oh shit. Why is it inhaled but a pipe/cigar not?

Is Al Fakher higher in nicotine than Nakhla?

In regards to the OP, I put some eJuice on a real cigarette an hour ago and found it lovely.

There's no combustion in hookah. At least there shouldn't be, if you're doing it right. So it's not actually smoke, but rather vapor. This is why you can inhale hookah "smoke" no problem. It's also why all those "studies" that have been done are not valid- they were burning the tobacco.

 

Nakhla is actually higher in nicotine content than Al Fakher. I prefer Nakhla in terms of flavor and nicotine level.

 

Real cigarettes are bad stuff. I can't stand them! :puke:  E-cigs I can handle, though... Just wish there wasn't that "throat hit."

[Skoozle]

Oh shit. Why is it inhaled but a pipe/cigar not?

Is Al Fakher higher in nicotine than Nakhla?

In regards to the OP, I put some eJuice on a real cigarette an hour ago and found it lovely.

 

Nakhla is higher nicotine than Al Fakher, ther reason I switched my recommendation for you was that it sounded like you were only using regular pipes and cigars which are not inhaled and as far as I know don't really give you much nicotine.

 

I see that you are also a cigarette smoker so I can go back to recommending Nakhla for you (although I think you already bought a bunch).  I don't think a regular bowl of Nakhla is going to give you as much Nicotine as a cigarette; certainly not as much as a cigarette with eJuice.

[Santino]

I have been dabbling with this the last few weeks. Recently the smoke shop I manage brought in an epic asston (read; 200 flavors) of Ecig juice. It actually works quite well using a ratio of 10 ml liquid for 250g of tobacco. If you have some really bland tobacco (Fantasia) you can really zip it up. Also opens the door for a multitude of mixes or flavor options not previously available. Not that I'd recommend it, but we sell a bacon (actually two, pepper bacon and maple bacon), pizza, etc. Rice krispie treats, mountain dew, root beer, cinnamon apple clove, almond joy, thin mint cookie, the list goes on, and on, and on, and on..

 

 

Also, helps a lot with the steam stones too. I'm bringing in the new organic (relaxation, etc.) shiazo line on Crown, so as soon as I get them stocked I'm going to try and mix it and see how it works out. The downside to the new organic is the limited flavors, so this really opens the door quite a bit.

[HookahNoobah]

Right: the coals are above the tobacco, so it is vaporized. I did not think about that. Good to know.

Oh shit. Why is it inhaled but a pipe/cigar not?

Is Al Fakher higher in nicotine than Nakhla?

In regards to the OP, I put some eJuice on a real cigarette an hour ago and found it lovely.

 

Nakhla is higher nicotine than Al Fakher, ther reason I switched my recommendation for you was that it sounded like you were only using regular pipes and cigars which are not inhaled and as far as I know don't really give you much nicotine.

 

I see that you are also a cigarette smoker so I can go back to recommending Nakhla for you (although I think you already bought a bunch).  I don't think a regular bowl of Nakhla is going to give you as much Nicotine as a cigarette; certainly not as much as a cigarette with eJuice.

According to the Obama Administration FDA, I would be classified as a "Quintuple Tobacco Addict", or one who obtains nicotine from 5 different source: cigarettes, snus, intrasanal snuff, tobacco pipe,  and e-cigarettes. After my Mya QT arrives, I will be upgraded to "Sextuple Tobacco Addict". Up untill a bit over two months ago, I was actually only a cigarette smoker, but when I got my biannual sickness, I decided to use Snus in order to reduce cigarette consumption for two weeks; somehow or another I started to use snuff and pipe that same week, and realized shortly thereafter that cigarettes are the absolute least fun and least enjoying way to obtaining nicotine (You smoke the same pack, every day, with no variety). I now smoke less than 5 cigarettes daily, at most. Surely I have multipled the intake of nicotine tremendously, yet I have cut down on the cigarettes 5-fold. My Doctor said that he "could care less about obtaining nicotine from any method other than cigarettes." I haven't talked to him about Hookah, but now that I know it is vaporized, perhaps he would give me the same response.

 

There is not a single pipe smoker / snus taker / snuf sniffer I have met in-person or online who will admit that their method of using nicotine is significantly harmful; everyone of them states categorically that it is no worse than coffee. This is in contrast to every single cigarette smoker I have met in-person or online who admits it is significally harmful. Is there any way to generalize Hookah users in this same fashion; i.e., is there a consensus among Hookah smokers that their inhalation of tobacco vapor is no more harmful than an addiction to coffee?

 

I truely do not care about the health effects from the methods of obtaining nicotine: I am an unrepentent, guiltless smoker; however I do like to be informed about my decisions so when I talk about it I am not just speaking out of my ass. The other day I lectured someone that hookah was not inhaled (oops) and I would rather not make similar mistakes again.

[fuckthatvincekid]

I think the general consensus among us is while any form of smoking is harmful, Hookah is definitely one of the lesser evils. Most all "studies" done showing it's harmful are biased and misleading.

c/p from something else i wrote "That being said, there are a lot of “studies” out there claiming hookah is worse than cigarettes. This is usually supported by a “fact” that states “you inhale 100 times the volume of smoke in a single session as compared to a single cigarette.” This is misleading. While the VOLUME of the smoke is much higher, the COMPOSITION is different entirely. Shisha tobacco is typically made with 4-5 ingredients tops, compared to the hundreds found in cigarettes, several of which are KNOWN to cause cancer."

also this study, I found while browsing these forums, which came to the conclusion that moderate hookah usage produced a neglible level of carcinogens found in the user. http://www.harmreductionjournal.com/content/5/1/19

Everything said should still be taken with a grain of salt though. There just isn't enough evidence either way to say that it's good or bad.

[Skoozle]

I did it with PREMIUM EJUICE from volcanoecigs.com. I add probably around 1mL. As I said, I normally don't feel a buzz, but even that knocks me out if I smoke it too fast. The pipe tobacco was the same with a 50:50 mixture, but it wasn't as strong I don't think. My memory on that is fuzzy since I only did it once.

 

Oh yeah, What strength juice did you use?  I just remembered that they come in varying strengths when I checked that website.

[â€On]

Seems unnecessary to me, but, to each their own. While I would like the ability to add to the flavor or change it up a bit, I just don't smoke for the buzz.

[Insane we trust]

@skoozle, I used the full flavored which is 16mg, fairly useless measurement in my opinion, but since it is liquid, I just vary the amount to vary the strength. Stronger or weaker doesn't make a difference to effect in my experience. It might make it stronger in the extra strength simply because it will vaporize more than lower strengths. I haven't tried it. Extra strength would probably be the most cost effective, but the lower concentration allows for more flavor enhancement to the sheesha.

[Insane we trust]

Well they do make nicotine free juice if you want to try it. A perfect addition in my oppinion since it is already made to vaporized, as opposed to adding other things for flavor. Plus you can make smaller bowl more flavorful. Just a thought, since I normally can't taste the hookah smoke unless it is a really strong brand.

Seems unnecessary to me, but, to each their own. While I would like the ability to add to the flavor or change it up a bit, I just don't smoke for the buzz.