grock Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Alright, so I have been drooling over the larger Elmas hookahs for a few months now, but uniting recently, I have not had too much extra funds on hand. Now it seems to be a possibility, however, one thing that always turned me off a little on Elmas was the lack of purge valve. I have been using a large KM trimetal jumbo base for about two years now, so my heat management is fairly good varying on what tobacco I am using. I have been cutting ccn's, stonehenging, and simply using 2-3 full flat coals for a bowl, BUT, every once and a while the smoke will get harsh due to error, at which I would just purge and it would be fine. What I'm getting at, what do you guys do if smoke gets harsh and there is no valve? That is the main thing holding me back from getting a large Elmas at this point. Thanks in advance for any input or advice you all have to offer. Best regards, Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 if nothing else its gonna make you master heat management so you wont use the purge valve, basically dont find yourself in a situation where you would need it... otherwise what you could do (had a pipe with a rusted purge when I was still new to hookah) is take off the coals and bowl then force yourself to suck out the gross harsh smoke in the vase... or just reposition the coals as soon as it gets harsh and fix it before it burns to oblivion. Either way a purge isnt really needed for a good smoking experience and elmas pipes are nice. edit : typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskhosa Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I had the same experience, and I just blow out the harsh smoke through purge....but I have never used anything else to say which is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Not to sound cocky or anything, but my smoke doesn't get harsh. Once you know the amount of tobacco and coals to use it is like clock work. BUT, if I were smoking one of my Elmas pipes and it got harsh I would just re adjust the coals, take one shitty hit, and be done with it lol. Some people say they take the bowl off and blow into the hose as well. Don't worry about the purge, there is no need it is only one more thing to clean/rust/whatever, as long as you do have your heat management down. Honestly, buy the Elmas :-) Easily my favorite pipe maker at the moment. I am sure as time goes on more things will surface but after buying one Elmas, I sold most of my pipes and now have 7 of them they hit perfectly, look gorgeous, and way a shit ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 weigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 so even if you aren't a hookah god like some of these folks I think you will be ok. Most old hookahs I've seen don't have valves anyways so... Worse comes to worse you pull the head, take a lung or two for the team, replace the head and keep on smokin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 even though i have a purge i dont even use it sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Removing the coals for a few minutes makes a bigger different than taking off the head and blowing through it - everything gets to cool off. And yeah you take the coals off, take a few crappy hits to clear out the residual harsh smoke that the tobacco is going to give, and just let it sit unheated for a few minutes. It works. All of Turkey runs on no purge valve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 i think if your consistent enough with heat mgt then it should be no problems. Maybe 1 or 2 harsh pulls per session...would be my guess. Great looking pipes and durable. Worst comes to worst you can always sell,I'm sure you would get a great price for slightly used elmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I don't need a purge valve, but my Syrians have 'em. I have a Turk on the way (if it ever gets here!) and I'm not worried about it one bit. Once you get your heat management down, you don't need the valve. This is the only reason I do not recommend Turks for beginners to the hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grock Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Thanks for all the responses! I appreciate it! I feel I can get management down pretty well with my current set up, just curious on how you would purge in the chance the smoke were to get stale. This was all very helpful. Going to attempt to contact NargileStore sometime soon. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grock Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 For some reason it wont let me edit my last comment, BUT: Is NazarHookah still in function? I heard that Mahir was done a couple months ago, but I wasnt sure if that news had changed. The site still looks the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 he said he's planning a return...but for now his website is not accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 yeah, the best thing to do is to try to contact him through facebook I'd imagine. He might still have a few, but who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Help us, Mahir... You're our only hope. lulz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 lold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I think if you don't have a purge then you are more inclined to improve your packing and heat management skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 My wife tends to take little lady puffs which will burn a bowl pretty good. Even after I purge, the bowl is producing harsh smoke. I remove coals and take a quick series of mouth pufft to move some cool air through the bowl. That works for me and I'm sure you are not burning your bowl that bad. I won't take a hot bowl off without something to protect me from burning my hand and I'm usually too lazy to get up and get a paper towel in the middle of a bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Your wife and my girlfriend too... Cant deny them a smoke but they wont change the way they smoke :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'm just happy she likes hookah and smokes with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 same :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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