HookahNoobah Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Can I upload Pictures on this forum or do I have to upload it to a hosting site first? The max size for "Attach Files is only 120kb", my pic is 1.2mb. Thanks to the advice of this forum, I decided to go with a smaller hookah and took the QT route, which I ordered from the Mya website. The hookah arrived yesterday, and the Nahkla today. I am using natural coals. Question 1 I am smoking it right now for the first time and my main concern is that it requires just a tad bit too much effort to draw on, which I understand to mean that there is too much air leaking. The hose is securely attached, no air coming out there. I don't feel that the QT bowl (or the Mya standard bowl, can't recall) fits the pipe stem perfectly. It feels clumsly. Air could be leaking here. The purge valve seems like another spot where air could be leaking. I ordered the QT with an "adapter for 2 hoses" and another hose. I was messing around with the QT yesterday and thought that the adapter worked by removing the purge valve and placing the adapter on top. I got as far as unscrewing off the purge valve before the ball bearing fell out and I decided not to mess with it any more, placed the ball bearing back in and screwed the purge valve back on. Could I have fucked the purge valve up by doing that? All I did was unscrew the valve and the ball fell out. I notice that when I exhale out my nose with my mouth still on the hose, the ball is easily displaced by the minimal breath going out my mouth on exhale, which requires me to pull harder on my next hit to get the ball back in place. Is there anything that noobs do that would make the QT require more than a minimal effort to start bubbling? Question 2 I'm sure I could google this, but while I have this thread open: how do I use the adapter for the QT to add a second hose on? Question 3 I am not tasting the flavor that strongly. I am using the Strawberry flavor right now as I figured it would be potent. I have two theories: 1) I was a pack a day smoker for 6 years untill two or three months ago, but I now smoke less than 4 cigarettes a day (today I didn't smoke); could my taste buds just not have healed yet? If this is the case, why doesn't hookah kill the taste buds? 2) While driving home from work, right prior to smoking this hookah, I smoked pipe (NH) tobacco for 30 minutes (and this was the second pipe of the day). I know that smoking another cigarette immediately after a cigarette diminishing the taste by half, easily. If I want to maximize flavor from the hookah, is it best to avoid pipe tobacco immediately before hand? On the other hand, the strawberry flavor in particular is not that potent for my taste buds, while my e-cigarette flavors are very potent. Even if the taste of the tobacco is to be diminished from using other tobacco immediately before hand, I would have thought that the strawberry/mollasses would have stuck out, regardless. Question 4 With pipe (NH) tobacco, I must relight the bowl several times during the bowl. Always. I have not perfected my technique so that the bowl only requires two lights. With natural coals on a hookah, do they simply never go out unless you do not take a hit for longer than 10 minutes (or whatever)? What about with quick lights: will they require "relighting" ? Question 5 I can't seem to get a "monster cloud" of smoke as I have seen people on YouTube do with the QT. Even if I inhale the entire capacity of my lungs, I am not getting a huge cloud of vapor on exhale. For a comparison, if I take a miniscule hit from pipe (NH) tobacco, I can get larger clouds of smoke. What could I be doing wrong? Summary I very much enjoy this route of administration, the paraphanilia of the Mya QT, and the Nahkla Strawberry flavor. I must stress my thanks to this forum for their help so far. I'm sure as a total noob I have screwed up somewhere to cause the minor complaints that I am having, and am excited for your answers. In another thread, someone mentioned how hookah is vaporized rather than combusted. I can now see how clear that is. It causes no stress upon the lungs whatsoever: no wonder nonsmokers use hookah while being so adversarial towards real-smoking. Why is it even referred to as hookah-smoking? This is nothing like smoking. Seriously: even an e-cigarette causes more stress upon the lungs than my hookah does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahNoobah Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 I just moved my coals to the middle from the outside because I was getting less smoke, and now I am getting larger clouds of smoke than I was initially? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahNoobah Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) I apologize for the tripple post, but it won't let me edit. The hookah bubbles immediately with no effort. I am referring to receiving a nice hit with minimal effort, instead of bubbling. If I use minimal effort, than I have to take a long draw to get a nice hit. I was expecting minimal effort and a short draw for a nice hit, anagolous to pipe (NH) tobacco. [EDIT] I can edit this post but not the former ones? I feel lightly inebriated from this. How is that so? I can have a snus in my mouth, be snuffing every 10 minutes, smoking a cigarette, smoking a pipe simutaneously and feel nothing but shit after that much nicotine. BUT I FEEL GREAT. How is this possible????????? Why would nicotine from any other route of administration provide no pleasurable effects while this provides a very mild, euphoriant, relaxing experience??? [/EDIt] Edited February 7, 2013 by HookahNoobah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I did not read all of this.. it is rather longwinded.. however.. pipe tobacco in a hookah? is that what I"m reading? I'm not sure if this will work well (if at all) also.. if it is hard to draw from the hose, its highly possibly you'be simply packed too much in the bowl, and there is no room for the air to pass through, thus causing a restricted draw. the adapter.. you have to purchase or find a second hose port (where the hose goes) and remove the purge valve (oposite of your current hose port) and screw in the new hose port. smoking cigarretes and pipe tobacco can and will definitely help diminish your taste buds. I know when I tried pipe tobacco for a short while I could hardly taste anything at all for a few weeks after. "monster clouds" will come as you perfect your heat management and packing. If you can't pull smoothly through the pipe, you won't be able to get monster clouds because you simply can't get enough smoke and air to pass through the bowl. keep working at this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Also with it being hard to draw it could be to much water also i would not bother with trying to add the adapter for 2 hoses on a qt u might break it by pulling or tiping it over or something. plus its not the best way to smoke anyway. but yah long ass read lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Ok, here is how you replace the purge valve with a second port.after removing the top part of the purge valve:[attachment=6189:IMAG0516.jpg]you remove the bottom part that is screwed into the stem itself. Be careful of the threads.[attachment=6190:IMAG0517.jpg][attachment=6191:IMAG0519.jpg]Then screw the second port into the stem.[attachment=6192:IMAG0520.jpg]As for the hard draw, make sure the bowl itself isn't packed too tightly. That would explain everything from the hard pull to the lack of smoke.Also, try pulling the hose and just hitting it not attached to anything. If it is still tighter than it should be chances are there is a glob of glue blocking the hose either at the port or the handle side. I have had this problem with almost every kind of hose from time to time. If you have a metal rod you can carefully insert into the ends you usually can break the glue free and then blow it out. I have a metal dowel i picked up at Home Depot for this, but a gun cleaning rod also wors (and a .223 brush i believe will fit into the end for cleaning) or a bend out coat hanger.But first I'd check how I was packing my bowl. Do the flip and suck test to see if you are getting air flow.http://www.hookahforum.com/topic/48296-air-flow-test-for-a-packed-bowl/?hl=flip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineout Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Can I upload Pictures on this forum or do I have to upload it to a hosting site first? The max size for "Attach Files is only 120kb", my pic is 1.2mb. Thanks to the advice of this forum, I decided to go with a smaller hookah and took the QT route, which I ordered from the Mya website. The hookah arrived yesterday, and the Nahkla today. I am using natural coals. Question 1 I am smoking it right now for the first time and my main concern is that it requires just a tad bit too much effort to draw on, which I understand to mean that there is too much air leaking.-air leaking would make the draw too easy, not too hard. The hose is securely attached, no air coming out there. I don't feel that the QT bowl (or the Mya standard bowl, can't recall) fits the pipe stem perfectly. It feels clumsly. Air could be leaking here.-if you dont think it fits well(i dont usually either) you could try and put the grommett inside the bowl then place the bowl on top, or instead of the grommett you can use wet paper towel The purge valve seems like another spot where air could be leaking. I ordered the QT with an "adapter for 2 hoses" and another hose. I was messing around with the QT yesterday and thought that the adapter worked by removing the purge valve and placing the adapter on top. I got as far as unscrewing off the purge valve before the ball bearing fell out and I decided not to mess with it any more, placed the ball bearing back in and screwed the purge valve back on. Could I have fucked the purge valve up by doing that? All I did was unscrew the valve and the ball fell out. I notice that when I exhale out my nose with my mouth still on the hose, the ball is easily displaced by the minimal breath going out my mouth on exhale, which requires me to pull harder on my next hit to get the ball back in place. Is there anything that noobs do that would make the QT require more than a minimal effort to start bubbling?-Yep, too much water, too much tobacco, not enough holes in the foil Question 2 I'm sure I could google this, but while I have this thread open: how do I use the adapter for the QT to add a second hose on? Question 3 I am not tasting the flavor that strongly. I am using the Strawberry flavor right now as I figured it would be potent. I have two theories:-Nakhla strawberry is actually a pretty mild flavor, BUT 1) I was a pack a day smoker for 6 years untill two or three months ago, but I now smoke less than 4 cigarettes a day (today I didn't smoke); could my taste buds just not have healed yet? If this is the case, why doesn't hookah kill the taste buds? 2) While driving home from work, right prior to smoking this hookah, I smoked pipe (NH) tobacco for 30 minutes (and this was the second pipe of the day). I know that smoking another cigarette immediately after a cigarette diminishing the taste by half, easily. If I want to maximize flavor from the hookah, is it best to avoid pipe tobacco immediately before hand? On the other hand, the strawberry flavor in particular is not that potent for my taste buds, while my e-cigarette flavors are very potent. Even if the taste of the tobacco is to be diminished from using other tobacco immediately before hand, I would have thought that the strawberry/mollasses would have stuck out, regardless. -The pipe tobacco and cigarette flavor can and will definitely diminish flavor from the hookah, but you are probably having problems with heat management and packing that are really giving you less flavor. Question 4 With pipe (NH) tobacco, I must relight the bowl several times during the bowl. Always. I have not perfected my technique so that the bowl only requires two lights. With natural coals on a hookah, do they simply never go out unless you do not take a hit for longer than 10 minutes (or whatever)? What about with quick lights: will they require "relighting" ?-Natural coals are literally like charcoal you use on a grill, you lite them and they are good until you either extinguish them or they burn up. You're all good. Question 5 I can't seem to get a "monster cloud" of smoke as I have seen people on YouTube do with the QT. Even if I inhale the entire capacity of my lungs, I am not getting a huge cloud of vapor on exhale. For a comparison, if I take a miniscule hit from pipe (NH) tobacco, I can get larger clouds of smoke. What could I be doing wrong?-This will come with practice, you could need more distributed heat. Also video for some reason does actually make clouds look a bit thicker than they really are. Summary I very much enjoy this route of administration, the paraphanilia of the Mya QT, and the Nahkla Strawberry flavor. I must stress my thanks to this forum for their help so far. I'm sure as a total noob I have screwed up somewhere to cause the minor complaints that I am having, and am excited for your answers. In another thread, someone mentioned how hookah is vaporized rather than combusted. I can now see how clear that is. It causes no stress upon the lungs whatsoever: no wonder nonsmokers use hookah while being so adversarial towards real-smoking. Why is it even referred to as hookah-smoking? This is nothing like smoking. Seriously: even an e-cigarette causes more stress upon the lungs than my hookah does. I just moved my coals to the middle from the outside because I was getting less smoke, and now I am getting larger clouds of smoke than I was initially?-the holes where the air is coming in are in the middle so you are pulling heat directly through the meat of the tobacco straight down. Caution must be taken however because thats also an easy way to burn the crap out of it. Depending on the coals you are using you might need to split one, or use a couple and have them on the edges to evenly heat the edges and have an indirect source of enough heat to properly vaporize the mu'assel I apologize for the tripple post, but it won't let me edit. The hookah bubbles immediately with no effort. I am referring to receiving a nice hit with minimal effort, instead of bubbling. If I use minimal effort, than I have to take a long draw to get a nice hit. I was expecting minimal effort and a short draw for a nice hit, anagolous to pipe (NH) tobacco. [EDIT] I can edit this post but not the former ones?you have i think 2-5 minutes to edit a post to change any immediate problems, this was due to too many people changing the things they said after they said something that caused a stir I feel lightly inebriated from this. How is that so? I can have a snus in my mouth, be snuffing every 10 minutes, smoking a cigarette, smoking a pipe simutaneously and feel nothing but shit after that much nicotine. BUT I FEEL GREAT. How is this possible?????????-youre smoking for longer, and its a lot of volume to come at once, and as far as hookah tobaccos go, nakhla is pretty strong for nicotine. Why would nicotine from any other route of administration provide no pleasurable effects while this provides a very mild, euphoriant, relaxing experience???-not sure [/EDIt] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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