DrunkenWizard Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Somebody please make a screen for the funnel bowl. I'm not digging the whole foil thing. It was O.K. at first and now it's just a pain in the a$$. Maybe I'll make one out of a soda can tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 hmm, could make make one out of... i got me an idea ill have to wait to get my bowl to see if it works, but if it does ill give em away for material costs and shipping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsboy Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 scalli, Invent something for us ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuschultz Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I smell another issue of Redneck Engineering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 If someone can get me three dimensions I can do it. The outside diameter (edge to edge) of the bowl and if you were to lay a straight edge across the top of the bowl, what is the distance to the top of the funnel? Also the outside diameter of the funnel. I have an ideeeer because of what I have read Tangiers and others say about the successful methods they've used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsboy Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Would something like this work? Don't mind the bad quality, I am just a bad artist ...[img]http://www.freewebtown.com/gunsboy/funnel_screen.JPG[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersianPride Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Well I like my foil but have you had a look at some of the sink stainers in your local hardware store. A lot of them look like they can double for a screen quite well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 whats wrong with foil? ive used screens and foil and to be honest they dont make any difference to me. i like the ritual of foiling up, poking holes, and lighting coals. a screen seems like im in a rush, and hookah is something i like to take time with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erica Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 personally I like my foil. haha Why would you perfer a screen?*And yes, I like poking holes too!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smileys Ulti Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 If you want a metal screen come by Smiley's today I will let them Know to give you one for free. Just tell them who you are. I will inform them your comeing.Smiley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenWizard Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 That's really nice of you Smiley. I would really like that. Do you have one that will work with the Funnel bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldavis Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 i am going to try to mcgyver something as soon as mine arrives....i am totally stoked by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Gunner, what you drew was a big help because I modded it to what I have been thinking about. I am pretty sure it was Tangiers that mentioned someone, maybe him, making holes in one area to one side in foil and rotating the foil. I took that idea for the screen. Also LIP 1 keeps the screen centered by riding close to the outside of the bowl. LIP 1 also extends up above the screen to make it easier to handle the coals so they cannot just be slid off the edge by accident. LIP 2 comes down over the funnel but there is an air gap. The purpose of LIP 2 is to force the hot air to pull down lower into the shisha. The ugly red line is to show somewhat the path the air would take. From what I understand the top of the funnel is lower than the top of the bowl? To get a idea if you look at a cover on a spray can and how you can rotate it. The screen would not be that tight but that is an example. Also if you look in one (spray can cover) you will see something similar to what I am trying to explain about LIP 2. Hopefully this makes sense?That is my redneck idea. [img]http://www.scalliwag.com/hookah/funnel_screen.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anpu Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Scally, that's a superb idea! If you could mold a screen to actuall curve to the funnel in the middle, that would ensure air would go all the way through the shishsa, not requiring direct contact (even though it would still be good), the only forseeable problem would be restriction of airflow at that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 [quote name='Anpu']Scally, that's a superb idea! If you could mold a screen to actuall curve to the funnel in the middle, that would ensure air would go all the way through the shishsa, not requiring direct contact (even though it would still be good), the only forseeable problem would be restriction of airflow at that point[/quote] I am trying to follow what you are describing but I'm missing it. Can ya draw a pic? On mine I am just figuring that if it worked like that with foil as far as the holes to one side it should work as good or better since with the foil the heat is not being redirected. One nice thing is that a prototype could easily be made with a large washer (non-galvanized!) a drill, 3/4" copper tube to act as LIP 2 and foil to encase the tube to the washer. If I had one of his bowls already this would already be tested.But try to draw up what you are talking about since I have a hard time following along bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasa Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 @ scalliwag. The 5 hole rotation method does not work as well as the 2 rings hole pattern, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 So the 5 hole is what I have drawn? What is the two rings hole pattern? This sounds like football defense coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGuy Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Hmmm... this is from someone with NO experience but reading mind you... 5x5 each side, ring around the outside, right around the middle, hole in middle maybe, but maybe not because it won't seal down over the middle because it is a screen[img]http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a54/DizzyGuy/funnel_screen.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotaku Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Scalli, i like the idea of the screen you have and also the path of the air going to the funnel. Do you think Angling the center sections area would help instead of having them go straight down? maybe something like thisI-----------/-----------------I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGuy Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Hmmm, I like that angling idea, lilo. The main thing with a set up like this is getting enough air flow from the outside to bring the smoke down. Maybe no inner ring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotaku Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I don't know how much the inner funnel differs in height between each of the handmade bowls Tangiers makes, but maybe put something in the middle of the screen where your gauranteed not to block the funnel hole. Perhaps some kind of simple post/stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I pretty much have to get at least one in hand to play with. I can get plenty of washers and knock out all sorts of prototypes really quick. Definately have to get a first hand feel for it before knocking off a permanent one. I have a small lathe and mill for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenWizard Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 You can do it, I have faith!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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