A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 So a few days ago i was bummed out that most good looking Syrians anything Gold Brass is sold out everywhere. SO in a last ditch attemot i googled 27" gold Syrian hookah. saw a link for hookahcompany.com It i was a very old link as it seemed to be dead and not connected to their main site. Hookahcompany doesn't even have a section for Syrian or Turkish hookahs. Anyways It was called the "Golden Nautilus Syrian Hookah". I saw it said in stock so i called them on it and they said they didn't think they had any Syrians but if it says in stock it could be in the warehouse. Turns out they had 1 left from a very old stock shipment they had 4 years ago back when Hookah-company had a Diff owner who specialized in Syrian / exotic pipes. Long story short i pulled the trigger and it's on the way now :-) Anyone know of the quality of these puppies ? Sad that the people of hookah-shisha now own hookah company but i have a feeling i just bought their last good hookah. all I'm mildly concerned of now is the fact that this pipe sat around in the back of a warehouse unknown to the new store owners and probably collected a lot of dust. Still a new pipe is a new pipe. http://www.hookahcompany.com/golden_nautilus_syrian_hookah_5978_prd1.htm I bought it because it reminded me of my Nawras and comes with an interesting camel-skin hose. Also the base on it isn't to bad either :-) If anyone owns one of these or is familiar with them, please provide your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvtaco17 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Same build almost as the Al Fakher branded pipes (Ive had a few), should be solid/beautiful and smoke like a champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJCrusader Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 That looks very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Same build almost as the Al Fakher branded pipes (Ive had a few), should be solid/beautiful and smoke like a champ. Thanks for the imput kvtaco17! Now im super psyched it should be here by tues or wed the latest! Also it was cheaper than my nawras while being new. I paid 140(shipping included for a new Nawras Spear. This cost me only 108 shipping included (after 15% coupon) now i really gotta keep that promise i made to myself that "this is the last hookah i purchase" That looks very nice Thanks PJ. I cant wait to try it out and compare it side by side w my nawras spear. I have heard the older Nour spears have a wider Draw then the Nawras don't know if that is true. However That is what i am hoping for! I can't wait to try it out. but seriously this has got to be the last pipe i buy lol How are your turks treating you PJ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 That is the lesser quality version of the Al Nawras "Spear" model. These were readily available from Karabetian Imports until recently. The draw is tighter than confirmed Nawras models. Folks have complained about the hoseport being too small and not fitting some hoses. Still, it is a decent pipe. Just not as good as the Al Nawras equivalent. I think you will still prefer your Nawras to it in terms of performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamrice23 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 ^^ yes, it's an okay pipe, no nour is worth anything over $100 in my opinion. I have 2 Nours and have owned many others but I just don't use them anymore with the hose port being so small and they just don't feel solid like my nawras pipes. It is kinda funny how the Nours are like the "jr" line so to speak. And hey, why you gotta tell the world about karabetian? They'll get flooded with clowns calling and emailing and won't have as much time for serious folks like myself. Oh well, anyway, enjoy the pipe man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 "Junior" line is a good way to put it, even though Nour is not the maker of these pipes, they are just labeled as such. Nour is (or was, as I heard they are no longer operational IIRC) an importing company and the vendors would just label the Syrian pipes (even the Al Nawras ones) as Nours. Um, was Karabetian some sort of secret? I've seen it discussed a lot on this forum over the years. Besides, I was under the impression you had to order in bulk and have it delivered via freight. So unless you are a business, I'm not sure how you are able to order from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'd say the real test is when you smoke it, if you like it, you got a good deal. I can see how with a big company things may get...misplaced even within a computer system. Make you wonder what other goodies are out there that companies don't even know they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KasbahBazaar Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Yea, what Chreees said. Also, I hope you are not being serious about divulging some huge secret about Karabetian... A) They have been discussed to death B) Their name is stamped on almost every box of Nakhla and C) As a private individual you can't order from them anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I think I remember them from my lounge days..it was like how many pallets would you like? i was like....um.....ah...have a nice day. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 I known about Karabetian for years now... And all you need is a seller's license and tax ID # in order to order from any wholesaler. I don't have 1 but when i contacted karabetian they didn't have much of anything. They had some nickle pipes but not much of anything interesting. Vendors pretty much cleaned them out. I had a feeling this pipe was gonna be lighter than my Nawras but i don't really care i like the way it looks i like the hose it comes w and i like the base. Plus at the end of the day its not like i paid over 120$ for it. I can't imagine the Draw of this pipe being tighter than that of my Nawras though. I have had 2 other Nours and only 1 Spear and the Spear, by far has the tightest draw of all my pipes. I mean its not like sucking out of a straw but my Nickle plated Nour and my Gold brass nour, which i sold have very wide open draws. That is why i was hoping this pipe would be comparable to those. But if not oh well. It still looks pretty :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamrice23 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Alright, yeah, in that case it's all good with karabetian. I just know every kid and their dog have dreams of becoming a vendor and bug a lot of these importers just wasting time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Alright, yeah, in that case it's all good with karabetian. I just know every kid and their dog have dreams of becoming a vendor and bug a lot of these importers just wasting time. There's no point in being a vendor now... I mean i depends what is in demand and what you get. But not everything you sell would be profitable. I personally rather run a lounge fused w a sports bar w a ton of TV's food and Hockey, Football and basketball games w occasional club night type events once every few weeks... That would for sure be more profitable then "being a vendor" No offense to any of you quality vendors here of course. I just rather do something else with hookah. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Getting into the hookah business now with all the crazy laws they're passing left and right across the nation is just a dumb idea, IMO. I toyed with the idea of running some sort of hookah-related business, but pretty quickly shot myself down. Right now in our history we're in a time where our freedoms are being stripped away. Maybe later on in my life it will change (doubtful). I'd rather play it safe than gamble my money away. As for the draw on the Nour, Sybian, go with what you like. The Al Nawras "Spear" I own has an excellent draw and is bigger than the "Nour" equivalent. I know this as fact. I can only guess that perhaps you found your Nawras to have a tighter draw than your Nours because of either the hose or vase you were using, or both. Or even the bowl, or packing job, or foil blocking airflow. I don't know all the variables, so I can only guess. But I find it highly doubtful you had a confirmed Nawras model with a smaller gauge than the typical "Nour" labeled Syrian. But hey, stranger things have happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) Getting into the hookah business now with all the crazy laws they're passing left and right across the nation is just a dumb idea, IMO. I toyed with the idea of running some sort of hookah-related business, but pretty quickly shot myself down. Right now in our history we're in a time where our freedoms are being stripped away. Maybe later on in my life it will change (doubtful). I'd rather play it safe than gamble my money away. As for the draw on the Nour, Sybian, go with what you like. The Al Nawras "Spear" I own has an excellent draw and is bigger than the "Nour" equivalent. I know this as fact. I can only guess that perhaps you found your Nawras to have a tighter draw than your Nours because of either the hose or vase you were using, or both. Or even the bowl, or packing job, or foil blocking airflow. I don't know all the variables, so I can only guess. But I find it highly doubtful you had a confirmed Nawras model with a smaller gauge than the typical "Nour" labeled Syrian. But hey, stranger things have happened... The last variable you said is the correct one the port holes on the nours are bigger than the nawras. This pic will back up the reason why my gold nour has a much wider / effortless draw when compared to my spear. In the picture of the ports i put the nawras above the nour. Notice the Nour teardrop's ports being about twice the size of that of the Nawras Spear. Same goes for my nickle nour version of the 29S or 6A w/e its called it also has bigger ports than my spear. My Spear Smokes good the flavors come out smoother and you get more taste however the draw is much more restricted when compared to my nours. It is still a beauty however and It is still the favorite pipe of my collection. Edited April 28, 2013 by A Sharrp SYBIAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Well I guess it should also be said that not all hookahs are exactly the same, obviously. Looks like you got a Nour with a larger than usual gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) Well I guess it should also be said that not all hookahs are exactly the same, obviously. Looks like you got a Nour with a larger than usual gauge. Really i thought the opposite all my nours have these Huge Gauges. They have a more effortless pulls than my old KM which i sold a while back lol Hmm if you think that nour has a huge gauge you'd lol if you see the gauge on my Nickle Plated Nour 29s lol that thing has an insane gauge similar to what regals have lol This is what led me assume that akk nours have bigger gauges than Nawras... lol didn't think its the other way around.... go figure lol I have also heard that all Syrian pipes are all across the board with gauges and no pipe has the same size gauge so there could be other variables as well. Still its interesting to say the least. Edited April 28, 2013 by A Sharrp SYBIAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamrice23 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 The newer Nours have wider ports. Still, the hose port thing is just killer though and the feel of a nour just isn't quite right but hey, if there's demand, there's demand. I'll stick with nawras and Turkish pipes which I'm starting to like more and more despite needing to use an adaptor to use my bowls.. On another note, I may be at karabetian this coming week so I'll be able to see what's up with Nours coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Nour's are very good depending what model you get. This particular nour is rare and i like the way it looks. You can go to Karabetian they wont have these and if they do they wont have a lot. The New Nours are pretty terrible from what i saw. Nour isn't a manufacturer they just import generics and put their name on them from what i know. Ultimatehookah.com is the only site i know than is selling the new 2013 nours. and those pipes are lightweight garbage. They Claim to be Syrian but they look like half Egyptian half Chinese type pipes... The best nours left around are the tear drop styles. the football style and maybe the nickle copy of the nawras 29g. (the nour version of course) (Karabetian said they have a lot of those) i think i posted it up on some other threads here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamrice23 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 We will see what they have. They call me once a week or more so I figure the least I can do is pay them a visit and see how things are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share Posted April 29, 2013 I'd say the real test is when you smoke it, if you like it, you got a good deal. I can see how with a big company things may get...misplaced even within a computer system. Make you wonder what other goodies are out there that companies don't even know they have. lol They also had a Karokel and a Camilla (crosshatch version of this) which my friend bought 2 months ago... before i randomly found this last week lol For all i know they could have more left.... Only way to find them is to google search syrian hookah hookahcompany.... lol I swore to myself to stop buyinb pipes so ill let you or whoever have at it :-) Let me know if it works out ! good luck! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I have a Nour spear and the pull on it is way more open than my Nawras. My nour spear gets more use than my Nawras. I don't like a completely open draw but I only like some restriction, not a ton the way the Nawras pipes are. I used my dremmel and sanded the inside of the hose port on my nour and it fits all hoses now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 I have a Nour spear and the pull on it is way more open than my Nawras. My nour spear gets more use than my Nawras. I don't like a completely open draw but I only like some restriction, not a ton the way the Nawras pipes are. I used my dremmel and sanded the inside of the hose port on my nour and it fits all hoses now. hmm that sounds like solid advice can you give me tips on sanding the inside of the hose adapter? do i use something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-432-Grit-Sanding-Bands/dp/B00004UDHF/ref=sr_1_1?srs=5538998011&ie=UTF8&qid=1367306392&sr=8-1&keywords=dremmel+sanding BTW my Nour spear should come later today! can't wait! I just want my nammor, narb and SS Pro Lounge hoses to fit it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I use something like your picture but it comes to a point on the end, that way you can use that point to focus the sanding on certain spots. Like the middle bit in this pic: https://www.google.com/search?q=dremel+sanding+bits&client=firefox-a&hs=42p&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=DbN_UZSpAYL-4AOq2YGIAw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=699#imgrc=Y1R5qdRkuXV27M%3A%3B7N_nIBULM_csAM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.xbox-scene.com%252Fimageserver3%252Fneon-logo%252FSandingPcs.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.xbox-scene.com%252Farticles%252Fneon-logo.php%3B640%3B480 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 So something more like this? now if only i knew what the right size was lol Hopefully the hose adapter won't be too small and won't require sanding. either way the hookah should come anytime today! I'm So exited :-) Can't wait till i get home! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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