wasabi25 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Hey guys, what's up? So... Been having issues with AF, Mizo and Fantasia... Somehow HookahFina smokes well. Info on my stuff: 1)I have a trimetal KM, some phunnels, and a KM egy. 2)I use coco stick coals. They're called KANARA, they're long sticks that you can break into pieces... 3)I'm using doubled standard foil. 4)Tried packing loosely to the top:burns. Tried packing densely to the top: burns. Tried packing loosely underpacked: burns. 5)Using 3 Kanaras I get more flavour at the beggining, but soon it burns. Usually how I do it: -Place 3 or 2 Kanaras equidistant of each other; -Place windcover for 2min; -Rotate coals+cover for 2min; -Take cover off, start smoking. Also, I leave the coals as far from the middle as possible. Every method I tried didn't work. Please help me out. =/ Thx a bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 The top layer of shisha is going to turn black and stick to the foil no matter what, that's not a sign of burning a bowl. Back the heat off and see what happens. I usually pack my bowls above the run then press it down when the foil goes on. Try 2/3 of what you're using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 The top layer of shisha is going to turn black and stick to the foil no matter what, that's not a sign of burning a bowl. Back the heat off and see what happens. I usually pack my bowls above the run then press it down when the foil goes on. Try 2/3 of what you're using Hey, you're already helping me on the other thread. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 My bad.., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 2-3 sticks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 My bad.., lol not at all :D i'm thankful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 My bad.., i tried on the egy, guess it burned =/ couldn't get flavour with 1 stick... tried 2... tried windcover... little of taste but then it burnt =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouda Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 What do you mean by it burnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 What do you mean by it burnt? hey! burnt taste =/ can't even taste the good shishas =/ wasting so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouda Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 well you can take off the coals and let it cool down. You don't have to toss the shisha just because it tastes harsh. That's your first mistake. Don't worry that's how I started off too :P move the coals to a new spot and start smoking. Also avoid flash heating. That maybe messing up your bowls as well. Don't put the windcover on in the begginning. Just put on the coals and smoke. It'll take a while to heat it all up but then you won't flash heat it and it should work better Oh and welcome to the forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 well you can take off the coals and let it cool down. You don't have to toss the shisha just because it tastes harsh. That's your first mistake. Don't worry that's how I started off too :P move the coals to a new spot and start smoking. Also avoid flash heating. That maybe messing up your bowls as well. Don't put the windcover on in the begginning. Just put on the coals and smoke. It'll take a while to heat it all up but then you won't flash heat it and it should work better Oh and welcome to the forums thx a lot, fouda. right now, trying mizo mint, with 2 pieces of 3cm kanaras. http://arguilefoz.com.br/v2/image/cache/data/Carv%C3%A3o/coco-kanara-16-800x800.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 very little smoke and little to no taste =/ glad you guys are so awesome though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouda Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 You're welcome. I've learned so much from everyone here and I love to be able to use that knowledge to in turn help others. And I credit all of my knowledge to the fine folks here at hookahforum Those are really interesting coals! Are they nats or QLs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouda Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Sooooo not enough heat. Add on another little chunk to the bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 You're welcome. I've learned so much from everyone here and I love to be able to use that knowledge to in turn help others. And I credit all of my knowledge to the fine folks here at hookahforum Those are really interesting coals! Are they nats or QLs? :D they're nats. this is my bowl. http://mundarguile.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/bowl-phunnel-l.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Sooooo not enough heat. Add on another little chunk to the bowl is it better to add another chunk, or cover? added cover, better clouds, but little taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouda Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ummmm never used a Chinese phunnel before. Only an egy and a crown micro..... I'd say get different coals maybe.... Try real anaras or some razans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Sooooo not enough heat. Add on another little chunk to the bowl also, my hose http://www.premiumarguiles.com.br/media/wysiwyg/cuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ummmm never used a Chinese phunnel before. Only an egy and a crown micro..... I'd say get different coals maybe.... Try real anaras or some razans i don't have access to those here in brazil :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 hookah> http://5starhookah.com/images/1309418644771582598083.jpeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouda Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Hose looks fine. Not even Internet retailers? I don't know what international shipping is like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Hose looks fine. Not even Internet retailers? I don't know what international shipping is like it's all good, the customs here suck ;/ they apply taxes that don't even exist 3rd world country =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 should i start next time, with 3 pieces of coal? what kinda worked sometimes it to pack it, put a layer of foil, poke 3 rings, put a piece of foil, like a ring on top of it, then double foil on top, and poke holes like an egy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouda Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'm sorry man :/ that must blow Well other than that I'm not really sure. Just try without the windcover in the beginning and keep experimenting. That's all I've really got for you. Others may have more tho. Good luck man! I wish you all the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi25 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'm sorry man :/ that must blow Well other than that I'm not really sure. Just try without the windcover in the beginning and keep experimenting. That's all I've really got for you. Others may have more tho. Good luck man! I wish you all the best thanks a lot, brother. i think i got most techniques down, idk where i'm failing at... but thx a lot :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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