Elmas Or Syrian

[getby25]

how those draw compare to km? with a same bowl and same hose.

i am about to order one of those very soon.

i mostly smoke washed shishas, but don't like egyptian style hookah draw too opened for me.

i can't make a decision between those hookahs, i like elmas but as long as their hose is not washable i have to use my washable hose for other many flavors, in this case if it will be similar draw as KM i gotta go with the nour syrian...

but some ppl say nour is too tight..if it is not too crazy i will put wide hose to make it better.

share your experience no rumor please, thanks :)​ 

Edited August 1, 2013 by getby25

[A Sharrp SYBIAN]

how those draw compare to km? with a same bowl and same hose.

i am about to order one of those very soon.

i mostly smoke washed shishas, but don't like egyptian style hookah draw too opened for me.

i can't make a decision between those hookahs, i like elmas but as long as their hose is not washable i have to use my washable hose for other many flavors, in this case if it will be similar draw as KM i gotta go with the nour syrian...

but some ppl say nour is too tight..if it is not too crazy i will put wide hose to make it better.

share your experience no rumor please, thanks :)​ 

 

                idk what you heard about Nours being too restrictive but that rumor is False. Many Nour Models are different Some are restrictive and some have a pretty wide and open draw. I will link you 2 examples. I own the 6B and My friend owns the 20B, 54B, and  45B.

 

http://www.cahookah.com/hookahs/syrian-hookahs/nour-syrian-brass-hookah-style-54b.html nicely restrictive (perfect for my preference) 

 

http://www.cahookah.com/hookahs/syrian-hookahs/nour-syrian-brass-hookah-style-45b.html nicely restrictive (perfect for my preference)

 

http://www.cahookah.com/hookahs/syrian-hookahs/nour-syrian-brass-hookah-style-6b.html   pretty open  (good for certain flavors but open draw) Open but a little restrictive compared to some egyptians

 

http://www.cahookah.com/hookahs/syrian-hookahs/nour-syrian-brass-hookah-style-20b.html  slightly open but still restrictive compared to the 6B  Very nice draw

 

 

 

         Hope these links and experience comparison help! 

[A Sharrp SYBIAN]

      I have owned a Turk Pipe in the past and my friend owns an El nefes Pasha The draw of it was comparable to my the Nour20B a decent amount of restriction but still a little open maybe the 20B was a little more open it was still more open the the 45b and 54B. The thing wish a lot of these pipes is they are hand made and some are more open or restricted then other's you don't know what you get until you smoke it. But overall they are both less restrictive than Egyptian pipes for the most part. Some people prefer Turks some prefer Syrians in the end it comes out as a matter of preference. If i were you i'd try to get both buy 1 1st then the other later. Both Syrian and Turk pipes Hold their Value so if you like 1 more than the other you can sell 1 of them off in the future. I did that with many of my pipes. 

 

Also Elmas pipes aren't for beginners. That being said you may not like smoking them unless you know how to handle them. They are very well crafted beautiful pipes however they cant purge at all. They dont have purge valves. They still look good and the draw on Elmas from my experience was fairly open very comparable to my nour 6B. again though you have to do everything right from the beginning to smoke an Elmas if you put to much coals or w/e and it gets harsh you may have to wait it out. Remember they dont have a purge. SO you take a coal or 2 off smoke and put up with harshness untill it clears up. However If you know what your doing and have the perfect amount of Heat from the start the Elmas will treat you pretty good too. My knock on them is they are very expensive when compared to other brass pipes Also I am so used to purges that i cant picture a look of a hookah w/o a purge. 

So again it's all preference Both Syrian Pipes and Elmas are great options with the low price of certain Syrians, IE the 45B It would be better to get 1 of each so you can have both pipes and form your own experiences and opinions. 

[getby25]

you are mad master of syrian lol like you said i will buy a syrian first and sell my KM tri. one day i will get a elmas

[Chreees]

If you don't like the open draw of the KM, then I would try a Syrian. The Elmas is sort of in between the two. Only problem with getting a Syrian is the really good ones are hard to come by these days, but they are still out there on eBay and Craigslist. The Nours Sybian mentioned are decent, but not the best. Hopefully when the crisis in Syria calms down they will start producing high-quality pipes again. Anyway, out of the pipes I own, I use my Syrians the most. To me, they are just perfect in every way. Good luck man, and let us know what you end up with!

[mattarios2]

Yah personal preference, most things have already been mentioned, I prefer Elmas pipes, look more traditional, not so dainty and flashy like the Syrian pipes. Not knocking them, just prefer the styling and design of turk pipes more. 

 

Also, many Syrian pipes have a screw off top, which I am not a fan of and the consistancy with Elmas is better. I have owned a few nours, and a few nawras pipes and every single one hit differently, some were WIDE open, some were restrictive, and some were in the middle.

 

With elmas it goes like this, the smaller pipes have a medium draw, the bigger pipes have a slightly tighter draw, but if you measure the openings of the core/ downstem pipe, all of the bigger pipes I own are the same size diameter, and all the smaller pipes I own have the same size diameter, so it appears Elmas uses 2 different sizes based on big pipe/smaller pipe and sticks to it. So you get the same result every time.

 

Only knock I can give Elmas is like most turk pipes, the lower end pipes they sell have a lean to the tray holder, but just putting a couple pieces of tape under the tray makes it sit perfectly straight so it is an issue that can be easily solved.

 

Goodluck

[Hassouni]

Throwing this in there, I dunno what people mean by Elmas pipes having medium restriction - if you use an Elmas hose with it, I find it quite restrictive. That said, the hose gives it a very smooth draw, which I really like

[Chreees]

Using an Elmas hose on ANY hookah is going to make it more restrictive, I'd say. No? That's why I said it's "sort of" in between... Not as tight as Syrians generally are, and definitely not as wide-open as KMs generally are.

[getby25]

you are right, ppl say there some restriction not too crazy with their hose elmas. but i am trying to compare the draw of pipes itself between syrian and elmas so using by same hose.

[Chreees]

As a general rule of thumb, it goes like this:

 

Wide-open... Egyptian

Open... Turkish

Slightly Restrictive... Syrian

Tight... CCS (Cheap Chinese Shit)

 

Before anyone posts any arguments, I said GENERAL rule of thumb. :)

 

This is if you're using say, a Nammor hose, not an Elmas hose. As for Mya Saray, I'd say they fall in between Slightly Restrictive and Tight, probably closer to Slightly Restrictive.

 

Now argue with my opinions. :P

[getby25]

thank you all for the help

i just made an order http://www.cahookah....-style-54b.html

Because my KM is 33in, i want my Syrian is shorter so i can put it on my coffee table and smoke.

other reasons...cheaper than Elmas, Elmas has no purge, 

anyway i will collect Egyptian, Syrian, and Turkish. i want to feel their own different style...

i am thinking elmas 628 for the future.

thank you all again  ;)​ 

[SpiritWolf]

I personaly love the syrian.

[A Sharrp SYBIAN]

thank you all for the help

i just made an order http://www.cahookah....-style-54b.html

Because my KM is 33in, i want my Syrian is shorter so i can put it on my coffee table and smoke.

other reasons...cheaper than Elmas, Elmas has no purge, 

anyway i will collect Egyptian, Syrian, and Turkish. i want to feel their own different style...

i am thinking elmas 628 for the future.

thank you all again  ;)​ 

 

 

           Thats a nice choice if you ever want a big Syrian get a 6B they are very good quality and are kind of heavy. The 54B is a nice little hookah as well i just prefer the 45B to the 54 idk why lol 

[Pavo21]

i like both but for the diff pull, i go elmas most the time, but a good syrian can be a good smoke also. the pull is diff in all brands, even mya has a good restriction like a syrian.  but i smoke my elmas everyday, my poor KMs just sit there. i gotta switch it up.

[A Sharrp SYBIAN]

i like both but for the diff pull, i go elmas most the time, but a good syrian can be a good smoke also. the pull is diff in all brands, even mya has a good restriction like a syrian.  but i smoke my elmas everyday, my poor KMs just sit there. i gotta switch it up.

 

 

              Idk If you had a good Syrian That Elmas may get less Time. I remember you loved the pull of that Nour Spear. I actually miss that pipe lol But some brands Especially Nour are inconsistent in terms of pull. They have models with a slight restriction like that Spear. Also they have models at the other end of the spectrum like the 6B which has a very wide open pull and you literally have to take baby breaths not to cough lol 

 

Now Elmas pipes are very good imo the craftsmanship alone is awesome I just am too used to having a purge valve lol The Elmas my friend has smokes similar to my old gold nour http://5starhookah.com/Nour-Gold-Syrian-NOSYR.htm

 

 

If they ever have more of those ill get 1 asap! i regret selling it lol The Draw on this particular Nour is Sublime. That being said i also love the Draw on My Nawras swirl it is almost identical to that of my old Nour Spear infact its the closest pipe i have to compare it to in terms of draw and styling but The Nawras has a lot of sentimental value to me. That being said Its very hard to choose between syrian and turk pipes! lol maybe i need o get reacquainted with an elmas lol 

[Pavo21]

yeah finding the perfect hookah can be easy or annoying, but having the option to try other types helps. check lounges see how the pull is and what they are it will help you choose whether u like restricted or non restricted