Cane Mint And Mimon Lounge Only?

[frenchyfam]

well eric has decided to switch lucid to birquq but lucid will carry cane mint and mimon. will these be in markets such as 5star and other vendors or in the lounge only. sorry guys im illiterate didnt understand very well 

[mustang67n]

From my understanding It will still be available for purchase through vendors.

But you could always ask on the tangiers forum at tangiers.us

 

Also if you use the search function there is a thread titled "lucid being replaced by birquq" or something to that effect. In that thread Eric actually contributed with a VERY extensive list of every flavor that is being transferred and went into detail on the CM and Mimon issue, etc. Worth checking that out too :)

[frenchyfam]

i did and that is what threrw me off eric stated that lucid will be sold in the lounge with specific amounts once again sorry to bother 

[joytron]

Eric mixes the flavors when you order, so he will keep a certain amount of the lucid tobacco at the lounge and if you come in you should be able to any flavor in lucid. Cane mint/mimon will continue to sell online if the vendors order them in the light biqurq. They are also sold in noir.

[Pavo21]

joytron nailed it, you can purchase most lucid still at oddessy, but online vendors and most local retailers will only sell mimon/cane mint. 

[frenchyfam]

sounds great thanks and i wish to go to the lounge its just its a 4 hour drive /= love tangiers though erics a genious

[Codyb88]

well eric has decided to switch lucid to birquq but lucid will carry cane mint and mimon. will these be in markets such as 5star and other vendors or in the lounge only. sorry guys im illiterate didnt understand very well Where did you read this at?

[Pavo21]

codyb88

 

Hello, my friends. Sorry to be so busy for sooo long. In a typical fashion, I shall address a number of points, not necessarily directed at any one person or directed specifically at one person, depending on the nature of the comments. 

 

1. About eleven months ago, in secret and without any forewarning, we switched Lucid from washed tobacco to low-nicotine tobacco. Nobody noticed. The nicotine content residue from the washing process is more significant than I had thought, and the lower nicotine base tobacco mimicked this well. The tobacco also retains the natural tobacco sugars which improves its flavor, in my humble opinion. That's why the price of Lucid went down. Name another brand of tobacco that lowers its wholesale price. I admit, getting the retailers to lower the retail price was slightly more daunting. 

 

2. The Birquq has been running at Noir-levels of nicotine and due to the nature of the base, it has a lower nicotine profile. The switch over may be largely unnoticed.

 

3. I have spent some time revamping all the flavors, testing them and making sure they all translate well or better. I assure you 

 

4. Lucid Cane Mint and Mimon notably have an odd flavor in Birquq. As such, Lucid will remain around for those two flavors. If other flavors are problems we may increase that list slightly. 

 

5. Lucid will continue to be available at the lounge in a limited capacity for pickup. Sorry for the trouble, Jess. 

 

6. I don't necessarily run this organization democratically. I do seek out people's opinions to temper my opinions, but I can't real give all the people all that they want. You can't please all the people all the time. If you were part of the data-collection, by way of a poll, participating in said poll does not constitute a warranty that your opinions will be reflected or acceded to. Everyone knows that anything in terms of naming, numbering, tobacco variations, flavors, samples, etc. are all done on .us. If you choose not to go there, then, a key conduit for dissemination of information regarding Tangiers is not available to you. After all, I voted for Obama the first time and Romney the second time. Thats how the shit goes, I Ching, adapt, evolve. 

 

7. I have warned a number of people that stonehenging coals was not a recommended practice. You may have to adapt as well. It may be required to expand your practices. I never have problems with coal and I never have to acclimate. 

 

8. 80+% of "acclimation problems" are actually because of the molasses base. Remove the molasses, remove the problem. The BBQ sauce smell? Molasses. The Soy sauce smell? Molasses. In a low-humidity environment, volatile smells (i.e. fruity flavors) are more pronounced. In humid conditions, more stable flavors are more pronounced (i.e. molasses)

 

9. A small group of people I know switched to Lucid for awhile and then switched back to Noir citing "Lucid is harder to acclimate than Noir." If you feel the reverse is true, you might want to examine why you feel that way. The acclimation variances in Noir are more noticeable, to be sure, 

 

10. Noir accounts for about 60% of Tangiers sales, Birquq for about 25% of sales, Lucid for about 15% of sales and F-Line for about 1% of sales. Yes, I know it totals to more than 100%. Rough estimates.

 

11. I love you too, Rani, but I thought we were going to keep our relationship a secret. I think by saying you dated a couple of Geminis, you let the cat out of the bag.

 

12. I feel like lower-nicotine Birquq is going to be a good threshold and entry-level tobacco. The flavors are crisper and fresher. Its a much better "contrast" to Noir. Lucid is a smaller, weaker twin to Noir. Birquq is its own thing. 

 

13. Testing looks good. Feeling good about what's going on with it and the flavors are largely being quite cooperative. I did note many months ago that Birquq flavors were good candidates for use in Lucid. This is the same logic, just turned backwards. 

 

14. This is a TENTATIVE list for those of you who like to skip to the end of the book to read the ending early:

Lucid

401 Apricot - Discontinued

402 Apple - May need something done to it

409 Melon - May be discontinued

410 Orange Soda-almost indistinguishable

411 Kashmir Cherry-Better in Birquq

419 Watermelon - More testing needed

431 Chocolate Cherry

432 Sour Grape - Fine

433 Cactus Fruit - good

434 Its Like that one Breakfast Cereal - Good

456 Tasty Peach - Good

465 Blue Gum Ball - Discontinued

469 Passionfruit -  Not tested yet

474 Lemon-Lime - Good

478 Horchata - Better in Birquq

482 Brambleberry - Discontinued. Duplicate of 682 Boysenberry, which will continue on

490 Peach Iced Tea - Significant improvement in Birquq

492 Mimon - Awful in Birquq. Will Remain as a Lucid base and flavor. Packages will change from the familiar orange face to the Birquq Green face. Otherwise, unchanged. 

494 Maraschino Cherry - Good

496 Cane Mint - Awful in Birquq. Worse than Mimon. Will remain as Lucid. See comments after mimon (#492, above)

499 Static Starlight - Not tested yet, but no problems are expected.

Birquq

638 Kashmir Peach - Being brought back

682 Boysenberry - Fine

700 Its Like That Other Breakfast Cereal - Good

701 Picnic Punch - Good

702 Little Purple Candy - No problems

Ok, the rest of Birquq is fine with the following exceptions

 

708 Rangoon Sunrise. Terrible name. Sells poorly, discontinued

709 Soursop Problematic flavor-wise. Discontinued. 

 

15. Unfortunately, we will also be raising prices slightly to account for surging prices in shipping and molasses markets. Additionally, the tobacco market is decimated. Lots of wet, early rain. The wholesale price of tobacco is expected to increase at least 25%, so to take all of those things into account, retailers will be seeing an increase of about $.75/250g wholesale. Expect prices to go up by a buck or $1.50/250g. The price spread between Birquq/F-Line and Noir/Lucid is being closed up slightly. So expect a slightly smaller increase in Birquq/F-Line prices. Real sorry about it. I've been putting the price increase off for five months. 

 

16.  Unfortunately, I haven't decided regarding the wisdom of keeping two flavors in Lucid and charging the lower Noir price for them. I may increase Cane Mint and Mimon prices to conform to the rest of Birquq prices. I may not. I have to test a few things out first. 

 

17. A small redesign in packaging is coming. Look for hologram stickers on packages to indicate its real Tangiers. It will be replacing the size stamps at the right side of the package. The price increase also reflects this increase in packaging costs. 

 

18. Some of the new, lower nicotine Birquq flavors require even less charcoal than the Lucid or the regular nicotine Birquq. They are running at half of the charcoal of the corresponding flavor in Noir. (Current Birquq takes about 3/4 of the charcoal of the corresponding Noir flavor).

 

19. Try Noir Strawberry (Not Cool Strawberry). Its new and really good. /shameless plug

 

20. The packaging lineup runs as follows:

 

Yellow: Noir

Orange: Burley

Green: Lucid/Birquq

Purple: F-Line and other special releases

 

21. The price of the Burley line will be at the same level as Noir.

 

22. The flavor testing of Burley will be resume once the switchover in Birquq occurs (and testing in that is complete)

 

23. New, exciting flavors are being tested. Bacon flavor is a distinct possibility. At least I think they're exciting.

 

24. Still working on Blueberry and Mango.   :sign0001:

25. Still love you all, still working seven days a week, 365 days a year to make sure its right for all of you. As much as possible anyways.

 

26. Bear in mind, the more varieties we have the longer the wait times are and the worse the stocking problems are for retailers. Thats part of the practical piece of the equation which is one of the principal reasons Lucid has to hit the dirt. Its nothing personal.

 

27. I hope you will all see and embrace the Lucid-Birquq as being a better substitute for Lucid. I'm glad some people are nervous in a manner. It means you guys are concerned, you love Tangiers and you don't want your perfect moments of life with Tangiers messed up. I understand and will continue to be your dutiful advocate and try to make things that people will be able to fathom and appreciate. 

 

28. Hope this answers many of your concerns and may move you towards looking forward with anticipation to the new things we're doing. 

 

Eric

[Codyb88]

I'm not sure why quoting on this forum doesn't work on tapatalk... Thank you though. Did you see this on another forum or where did you see Eric's post on this is my question.

[Travis]

No, Eric posted it on this forum.

 http://www.hookahforum.com/topic/50761-tangiers-lucid-being-discontinued-with-most-flavors-rolled-into-a-new-lower-nicotine-birquq-line/?p=583418

 

There's the link to his post.

[Codyb88]

Is Eric "click"?

[Travis]

Eric is Sonthert

[Click]

I'm click.  

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[frenchyfam]

I'm click.  

whatsup neighbor burbank reppin

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