Chreees Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Elmas Nargile USA has some AMAZING pictures of making their hookahs on their FaceBook Page... Check it out: https://www.facebook.com/elmasnargileusa Oh and yeah, apparently folks in the US will now only be allowed to order from this Elmas USA distributor. NargileStore.com is no longer an option for US customers. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Yeah this page has been around for a while now. One hopes that they're not at ripoff prices like 5 star, and more in line with NS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KasbahBazaar Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 The prices on Elmas pipes is going to change, unfortunately for the worst. They sent me their wholesale price list and it's pretty appalling, no way this was a good move to bring the prices down here. I looked into making a purchase and not only is their wait time for orders very long but I can't afford to buy pipes in BULK (10 or more) $10 below retail and hope to be competitive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 That's what I was afraid of, Mark. Very unfortunate to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Retail according to where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Mark I inquired with them as well. And I 100000% agree with you. Their prices are so ridiculous. I find it insulting to be honest. They want to sell you a deve figurlu for 250 and you sell it for 300. Why would you invest 250 to make like 30 bucks after expenses. It is stupid. And I am even more mad that they told NS they were not allowed to sell to the USA They basically said, anyone who sells elmas to other countries for a good price stop so we can charge out the ass for them in the USA. You can buy quite a few different elmas models from NS shipped from Turkey for cheaper than they want to sell them wholesale to us here in the states, it's insane. I won't be ordering from them ever and probably won't buy anymore elmas pipes unless they prove to me they care about our opinion a bit more and a little less about their pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So bottom line they are more than NS stuff shipped?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Guess I will never own an elmas... thought they were over priced to begin with... man i guess i will be happy with my $90 Tokel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 In Turkey they're not overpriced at all, without shipping, but including taxes, a 628 is less than $50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 Asinine. I guess there's still always Tokel from Bora (turkeysonline) on eBay. Sent from my iPhone using [URL=http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1]Tapatalk[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 So bottom line they are more than NS stuff shipped?? for the most part yes usually by $10-30 and we can no longer order from NS if you are located in the states. Guess I will never own an elmas... thought they were over priced to begin with... man i guess i will be happy with my $90 Tokel. They are absolutely over priced to begin with. Worth it ... well that is up to the buyer of course. In Turkey they're not overpriced at all, without shipping, but including taxes, a 628 is less than $50. Yeah in Turkey they are damn cheap for what you get. I believe the kafesli I got is like 170 in turkey, that is a deal considering the hose and all the other accessories you get are top notch in terms of quality. Asinine. I guess there's still always Tokel from Bora (turkeysonline) on eBay. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk For sure, as long as it doesn't break in transit lol. My lotus tray was in a big box with nothing else. When I got it there were tons of dings all inside the box. And the vase I got from him had no wrapping either. When I took the package you could move it and the vase would roll around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 So bottom line they are more than NS stuff shipped?? for the most part yes usually by $10-30 and we can no longer order from NS if you are located in the states. >Guess I will never own an elmas... thought they were over priced to begin with... man i guess i will be happy with my $90 Tokel. They are absolutely over priced to begin with. Worth it ... well that is up to the buyer of course. In Turkey they're not overpriced at all, without shipping, but including taxes, a 628 is less than $50. Yeah in Turkey they are damn cheap for what you get. I believe the kafesli I got is like 170 in turkey, that is a deal considering the hose and all the other accessories you get are top notch in terms of quality. Asinine. I guess there's still always Tokel from Bora (turkeysonline) on eBay. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk For sure, as long as it doesn't break in transit lol. My lotus tray was in a big box with nothing else. When I got it there were tons of dings all inside the box. And the vase I got from him had no wrapping either. When I took the package you could move it and the vase would roll around. I think that kind of rep puts people off from ordering from him.. at least it does to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timd Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I ordered from Bora back in November and my box came well packed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wek-sos Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Guess I will never own an elmas... thought they were over priced to begin with... man i guess i will be happy with my $90 Tokel. I had a 628 and a 632. They were great, and compared to the El Nefes and Tokels, the engravings on the Elmas are much nicer. But all in all, where can you even buy a male bowl anymore? I don't want to pay $10 from 5Star when male unglazed bowls can be found for $2. Kasbah isn't selling their male funnel bowls anymore, and we all know the Turkish adapters are terrible. Crown Hookahs is no longer producing male bowls due to the lack of demand, and I doubt any vendor is going to stock up on a dying breed of bowls. If anyone could point me in the right direction, I would be very greatful. Also want to add, the Turkeys Online Pasha I purchased came with a STEEL tray and wind cover, painted gold. Compared to an El Nefes Pasha I picked up second hand, the stem looks and feels identical luckily. But the El Nefes did come with an actual brass tray and wind cover... While I had zero problems with packaging and shipping, I would rather pay more for the real deal. I miss my Elmas pipes, I wish I had never sold them. But I am just as pleased with my Tokel/El Nefes pipes and can get over the slight difference in looks. And I can actually use all of my bowls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Just buy a copper piece from lowes so you can use phunnels on a traditional turk pipe. Go to the plumming section. They work insanely well. I put up a post on here a lil while back of the exact one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 This is very lame. Guess I will never buy an Elmas now! lol I wonder what prompted them to overcharge US customers to begin with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Greed. Sent from my iPhone using [URL=http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1]Tapatalk[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yeah it's BS. They claimed they are focusing on hookah lounges mainly. Supposedly though they said many vendors selling from Turkey were selling pipes that weren't elmas and calling them elmas. They told me they are going to laser etch serial numbers into each elmas pipe sold in the USA and are also going to come with a certificate that matches the serial number. They were really nice though and are making an effort to work on pricing and other things. I have been in touch with them quite a bit. I would love to get an osmanli for a fair price but that prob won't happen. I just looked over the wholesale list again the average markup is $77, so on average you can make probably 30-50 bucks or so overall after expenses and shipping on each pipe which for the wholesale price they want just seems outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If they would let you buy just a couple pipes it wouldn't be so bad, but it is a 10 pipe minimum for wholesale orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoapplesplease Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Actually I think its awesome Elmas is taking such a step to insure the quality of the product they produce and protect the customers from conterfiets, by selling direct to consumers instead of selling wholesale...remember they are a small family owned manufacture of high quality artisan nargiles,..not some mass produced cheap hookah made by under-paid factory workers.... Sure everyone wants to get stuff cheaper, and you can get cheaper or over priced mass produced stuff, But honestly I'd still much rather buy directly from elmas in the USA and know I'm getting a quality product , produced by the people I'm buying it from..., when I ordered from Germany through the Elmas distributer there , the service was second to none all 3 times I ordered from them. I hope this will lead to Elmas brining in Turkish elmas or rosanna, moassel...... Elmas selling direct to customers in the USA is awesome IMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Actually now that I think about it, it's no more expensive than the German site, though that's no bargain either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Actually I think its awesome Elmas is taking such a step to insure the quality of the product they produce and protect the customers from conterfiets, by selling direct to consumers instead of selling wholesale...remember they are a small family owned manufacture of high quality artisan nargiles,..not some mass produced cheap hookah made by under-paid factory workers.... Sure everyone wants to get stuff cheaper, and you can get cheaper or over priced mass produced stuff, But honestly I'd still much rather buy directly from elmas in the USA and know I'm getting a quality product , produced by the people I'm buying it from..., when I ordered from Germany through the Elmas distributer there , the service was second to none all 3 times I ordered from them. I hope this will lead to Elmas brining in Turkish elmas or rosanna, moassel...... Elmas selling direct to customers in the USA is awesome IMO.. While I agree with you, the pricing is just absurd dude, at minimum wholesale to retail. Heck maybe they just want nobody to buy them wholesale so they are the only ones selling them here in the USA. But 370 retail for a canary is just ridiculous. Or 400 for the camel ... just insane. A normal tugrali with a standard base is 190 ... the prices are laughable. From NS I paid like 290 for my kafesli that had all the bells and whistles, lux hose, crystal jumbo vase, and some extra accessories I bought and that was shipped from Turkey. For example the dantelli is $56 from NS before shipping, elmas usa wants $175 retail for it in the USA. That is bull. The fact of the matter is if they can sell them for 25-190 (other than the osmanli/papatya) in turkey depending on the model all said and done, they don't cost them much to make. To bring a huge crate of them over here should not add too much to each individual setup. Dealing direct with a company shouldn't mean prices that are triple the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 ok so i also got the whole sale list etc. but one thing i learned from talking with them is i will possibly buy from them for 1 personal use and 2 the fact that i can still access them without the wait or the hassle to deal with the people at NS, it hasn't been easy for me to keep in contact with NS or get a shipment set up. yes i wont sell it for the rate that i could but im also not paying shipping...from a country that will take 4-5 times as long. so yes prices might go up but its quality that we are still getting. i understand that hookah smokers are broke but not in socal they are not so i might have some good profit and sales out here. but if peopel are insterested in something i might start taking up a order list. still cheaper then me paying retail. Since mahir fell off the face of the earth there are not as many options. Mark if u wanna talk to me about splitting costs and getting shit let me know. and for a final thought, i am not always into doing stuff i do for making money, i mean i am, but i want this world to experiece what i have. i am spolied but i share it with my friends and i spoil them a bit also. the lounge i own isn't as much for profit and power hungry money, its for the enjoyment of my hobby, making good contacts in life(which has happened amazingly!) and growing the world in nargile. so again if are interested in something lets get a good order going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 My STRONG suspicion with their bogus wholesale costs is that they aren't interested in it. That said I need some trays and wind covers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoapplesplease Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I'm glad they don't want to sell wholesale. Capitalism will determine the price of there nargiles. and I'm OK with that. still at the prices Elmas USA wants for there nargiles , they are a bargain for cost value compared to the cost value of KM's and MYA's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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