Addison Roberts Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I was wondering if there would be any way of making a hookah with a very restricted draw to hit very easy possibly y drilling bigger holes at the bottom? Would that work? I don't know the inside of the hookah but am very curious if you can make a hookah that has a very small hose hole at the bottom where it is inside the vase bigger would that work pretty much.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Zou Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Clean the bowl Clean the Stem Clean the hose Clean the base Clean the purge valve Don't pack too tight, fluff it. If you are using foil, poke more holes Can you take a pictures of what you are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Roberts Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Its a new hookah I am talking about I am afraid from the reviews it will be way to restricted for me. I like hookahs with a light draw like my all glass hookahs. Its a Nawras Karakol theres a video on youtube by someone who shows the bottom and talks about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj3Uko2NBM8 8:29 in the video he talks about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 If you like a huge open draw, then a Syrian pipe is probably not for you. You could get a decent chunk of change for a Nawras pipe on Hookah Forum, if you decide to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 large gauge hose (if your not already). More holes in foil... try to get your toothpick lined up and all the way down one of the holes in the bowl. But like it was said above... its a syrian stem so its smaller width than most egyptians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 yea Just get a large gauge hose. Asli and Narbish hoses should get the job done. also you can add on a heba diffuser to the downstem for that extra smooth flow. It doubles as a silencer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Tangiers Phunnel bowl and wide-gauge washable hose (Nammor, ASLI, Narbish, etc.) will do the trick. That is always the first thing I recommend upgrading on a hookah, as it makes a huge difference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 There is always the [possibility the tube is blocked by melted metal. Have you tried running a pipe cleaner of flexible steel rod from the hose port out the bottom hole? I got a hookah once with crappy draw until i flipped it over a discovers a bit of melted metal slurry had half blocked the hole in the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Before you go and buy a hose to try to fix this, follow Mushrat's advice. See if the hose port is obstructed in any way. Once you are sure the hose port is unobstructed and clean, take a draw directly from the hose port. no hose no base. If that is too restricted for you, it won't get any better. That's the bottle neck. Do the same with the down stem (make sure it's clean). If you're satisfied with those then it's something else slowing you down and you can go for the wide open bowls and hoses. The hose port is a tube through a hollow chamber. Like a straw through a shoe box. You can't drill it out. At least you can't drill it out with out having to do some major repairs, like replacing the hose port tube with a larger one. It would take some custom work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wek-sos Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) The hose port is a tube through a hollow chamber. Like a straw through a shoe box. You can't drill it out. At least you can't drill it out with out having to do some major repairs, like replacing the hose port tube with a larger one. It would take some custom work. +1 the hose port has a bend inside of it to fit in the chamber. If you removed the hose port, you would have to get a welding shop or some specialty shop to bend a larger tube and attach it. If the hose port isn't restricted (no base, no hose) and you are experienced in soldering, you could buy a new downstem. Look at an online metals shop for a pipe with the same O.D. but a larger I.D., thinner wall thickness. This really won't change much, and if you tried to use a downstem with a larger O.D. you would have to do a TON of work that would completely ruin the value of the pipe. Honestly, if you don't like it then sell it. Right now there is a Karakol for sale for $130 by a member of this site, so that's a good area to price it at. If you did any custom work to it, it would have no resale value. I've replaced a few Syrian downstems due to cracking/decomposing and I know I can't sell them for nearly what they should be worth, even though they perform better... Since Karakols are no longer produced, please don't just start cutting yours up. You would be turning a ~$130 pipe into a $25 pipe by doing so. Edited January 29, 2014 by wek-sos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfernoRaven Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I agree with everything above, I actually found out a few times that I had a tight draw because some electric tape (that I use to get a better grommet fit) had blocked the hose port turn it upside down to see if there is anything visible blocking then run a pipe cleaner through to see if it goes through easily. I have used my old stem brush to do this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Roberts Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Okay thanks guys for the tip! My friend and I drilled it last night on one of his hookahs and it didn't work out to well. The drill would slip when drilling into the brass so we just gave up. Still like it was before but a little bit bigger. It hits the same as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Okay thanks guys for the tip! My friend and I drilled it last night on one of his hookahs and it didn't work out to well. The drill would slip when drilling into the brass so we just gave up. Still like it was before but a little bit bigger. It hits the same as before. A pipe's draw depends on the smallest diameter passage that the air will have to pass through. Syrian pipes as a rule of thumb have more narrow stems, hose ports, AND purges. If you want a wide open draw, sadly a syrian is the worst choice (disregarding cheap chinese pipes). They are GORGEOUS hookahs, but definitely nowhere near the draw you would get from a KM. Do what mush suggested and see if maybe there's a bit of slag stuck in the port. Make sure your water level is about 1/2" above the bottom of the stem. Pack fluffy or use a phunnel bowl. Use a more open hose. If you do all of this, and it still doesn't meet your satisfaction of a wider draw, Then the pipe itself is just built at too small of a diameter. They're awesome pipes, but definitely not wide open draws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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