Addison Roberts Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Okay so ever since my shishavac at home has broken I have been using a gas stove top with a mesh screen to light my coals. Are there any differences if any between gas stove top and coil burners? I heard once that coil burners cook the inside of the coal a little for better burning but I can't tell a difference… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Yes coils have space for open air between circles allowing better circulation of heat. That causes the coconaras / other coconut coals to light faster. Also they are cheap so you dont have to worry about fucking up your stove.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 you cant fuck up a gas stove if you use a mesh, thats what I do as well and it works just fine :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Should be fine. I have, however, been told not to use candles because they deposit wax vapors on whatever they heat. If you have a Walgreens near by, they sometimes have little single coil counter top stoves that work pretty well for lighting coal. You can also keep those near where you smoke so you don't have to run back and forth to the kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Addison, I've found even very high powered gas stoves don't light coals as fast as an electric coil. I have no idea why, but that's just the way it is. Maybe by the time you get to commercial grade burners, it's faster, but for home use, a dinky little coil hotplate is the best method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Addison, I've found even very high powered gas stoves don't light coals as fast as an electric coil. I have no idea why, but that's just the way it is. Maybe by the time you get to commercial grade burners, it's faster, but for home use, a dinky little coil hotplate is the best method. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Roberts Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 I am currently using like a grill side burner.. So basically what you guys are saying is its just time? I am waiting to buy a new shishavac after I receive payment on ebay so I was just going to buy a new after that. I was debating on buying a coil burner if there is a major difference since the shishavac will be here in 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Did you use your shishavac for more than lighting coal? You can get quite a few coil burners for the money you would spend on a shishavac. How long did your last shishavac last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Single coil burner from Walgreens for $10 all the way... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sharrp SYBIAN Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 coil burners are the best trust us on that. Don't let the really cheap price fool you, they get the job done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyx Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I just bought a single burner from walmart for my coco ultimates; do you have to put foil or anything on the burner when laying coals on it to heat up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud-Hookah Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I just bought a single burner from walmart for my coco ultimates; do you have to put foil or anything on the burner when laying coals on it to heat up? I just stick them right on the coals. Nothing tricky about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I just bought a single burner from walmart for my coco ultimates; do you have to put foil or anything on the burner when laying coals on it to heat up? I just stick them right on the coil. Nothing tricky about it FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Roberts Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 I use the shishavac for cleaning hoses, drying down stems, and starting bowls… Oh and lighting coals. Its relatively fast but not as fast as a coil burner… I had 3 shishavac's until my one at home broke and I took it to my work for lighting up hookahs there but then the suction broke and I sent it to shishavac for a 150.00 credit… Thats the only reason I bought a new one because they gave me 150.00 store credit at hookah-shisha. I would of never ordered another if I didn't have that twords it… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I just bought a single burner from walmart for my coco ultimates; do you have to put foil or anything on the burner when laying coals on it to heat up? nope just put them directly on the coil. Let them light about 70% of the way, then flip and let the other side heat up, when ready the entire cube should be red with a tad bit of ash on the top of the coal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wek-sos Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Addison, I've found even very high powered gas stoves don't light coals as fast as an electric coil. I have no idea why, but that's just the way it is. Maybe by the time you get to commercial grade burners, it's faster, but for home use, a dinky little coil hotplate is the best method. Does that have to do with the multiple, smaller flames to evenly heat up a cooking dish? I can light coals in a fire pretty quickly, or on a portable camping stove (one flame in the center) but yeah, regular gas range doesn't heat coals very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Roberts Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Its not a regular gas stove its the side burner on a grill. The flame is rather big and heats them up in about 4-5 minutes but I was just worried its not cooking the coals thoroughly… Like the inside if it needs to be. I haven't noticed a difference other than a little bit of a weird taste at first which is probably from the propane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I just bought a single burner from walmart for my coco ultimates; do you have to put foil or anything on the burner when laying coals on it to heat up? nope just put them directly on the coil. Let them light about 70% of the way, then flip and let the other side heat up, when ready the entire cube should be red with a tad bit of ash on the top of the coal. You can actually also leave them on one side till they're lit all the way up the sides of the coal, then a quick flip for <30 secs just to get the final top surface lit. Addison, I've found even very high powered gas stoves don't light coals as fast as an electric coil. I have no idea why, but that's just the way it is. Maybe by the time you get to commercial grade burners, it's faster, but for home use, a dinky little coil hotplate is the best method. Does that have to do with the multiple, smaller flames to evenly heat up a cooking dish? I can light coals in a fire pretty quickly, or on a portable camping stove (one flame in the center) but yeah, regular gas range doesn't heat coals very well. I'm not sure why it's like that. I have a portable stove too, and that sucks. Lighting in the embers of a grill isn't very fast either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 You can actually also leave them on one side till they're lit all the way up the sides of the coal, then a quick flip for <30 secs just to get the final top surface lit. For sure you can. I just find it faster to flip slightly earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Roberts Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 You can actually also leave them on one side till they're lit all the way up the sides of the coal, then a quick flip for <30 secs just to get the final top surface lit. For sure you can. I just find it faster to flip slightly earlier. I just let it spend 2 or 3 minutes on one side flip and let it sit for 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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