entrailsgalore Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Yes he probably types one a computer keyboard better than me. Since when was typing and english the same thing? Ive been taking english for the last 12 years of my life, not typing class. Ive never taken a typing class. SO as my english would be superior to Kofods, my typing may be not. Since you know...they ARENT the same thing. In case you thought theyw ere the same thing and associated someones bad typing with bad english. Now if I was from china, then youre assumtion of my bad english would be appropriate. And My point doesnt need to really be proven. Its more of common sense. If youre not from a heavy english speaking country, chances are you wotn speak english correctly. Just liek Im not going to speak japanese fluently because...Im not from japan. Common sense. Your forum title is a perfect description of your beginings at this forum. Hopefully by the time that changes( in about 30 or so mroe posts) it will be true. Kofod...250 years old? I didnt know humans could live that long lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G. Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Mmm, this thread was intersting... for a spell. I actually sort of enjoyed the ethics and/or lack-thereof debate, as at least some of the posts were well thought out and well written. But now it's descended into flaming about each other's typeos. Which is the universal WWW marker of "whatever legitimate argument there may have been at one time in this thread is dead and buried." Points made, folks, and it looks like there's nothing further to contribute. By this point we've decided wether or not to patronize a certian company, and have likely formed opinions about the particpants' ethics, reliabilty, etc. Let's move on, eh? E.G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrailsgalore Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Exactly. I need not say no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roketsloth Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 trolling or not. you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCulture Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 Well thanks everyone for your inputs, we all know that Sahara Smoke (associated with hookahhookah) is in the wrong here and doesn't deserve to be in business after blatantly stealing material. They've irreversably damaged themselves in the industry. There is COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT going on here and [b]everyone knows it.[/b] Friends or not rising to my defense on this thread, it only takes an intelligent human to speak out against OBVIOUS THEFT and know that it's wrong. On my site, I know better than to steal material, I would rather LINK TO IT and show that there's credit given where due. It's the RIGHT thing to do. I may do a <target = new> on the link code so that a new window opens with the link and one can come back to my site by closing the window, but at least I LINK to the info that someone else has produced. Like I said before, THIS IS NOT OVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roketsloth Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 [b]THIS IS NOT OVER!!!!![/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrailsgalore Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Well good luck to you HookahCulture. Hope everything works out fo ryou. Let us know if you need hlep,a nd keep us updated Id liek to see how this turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I didn't read this thread until just now. The Hookah-Hookah thread drew my attention last night, and I went and checked their website out and discovered that they've got some pretty awesome looking flavors, so I ordered a bunch of massel. It said in the Hookah-Hookah thread that some material had been stolen from another site, but I wasn't aware of this information until I read this thread just now. Sorry this happened to you H.C., I think it really SUCKS!!! But, I'm not going to lie to you, I AM looking forward to trying these new flavors. I'll post a brief review tomorrow after I've tried them. I certainly hope these flavors are not made by the same company as Splash, that would BLOW!!! They said that after the first of the year, they're going to have 10 new flavors, Cognac & Jamaican Rum being just a couple. Their hookahs DO look kinda cool, but after reading this thread, I don't know if I want to give them any more business. It all depends on the flavors I ordered and how they taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kofod Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I dont think that entrailsgalore have asked you to speak danish - me neither. But I have on one occasion said that you had to live with me making "not-words" once in a while if you did'nt want to write in either german, danish or spanish. The danish quite correct to the point where it makes sense - not regarding mispelling and "not-words" Though I wonder why you complain on not having a danish keyboard when not using special danish letters? But what you basically says is that its not a big deal - I find it at big deal that they have copied a large parts of a book written by someone else. And that is by someone who have themselfes have copyrighted their "own" (=the copied) material. So eventhough you dont find it a big deal to break copyrights - the violators do. I hope you can follow me on this, so I will make an example. X goes in and takes an apple from Y's garden. You can think its a big deal or not - up to you. X takes an apple from Y's garden. X goes home put the apple in a basket and makes a sign in the front yard saying that you are not allowed to pick apples. When Y tells X that he is a little crossed that X took his apple X replies that he did'nt and that Y can pay for a bite. There's a big difference in the two situations - and you can have a moral standing of your liking to each one of them. I should hope that you think the latter situation shows a bit of double standards from X or hookahhookah. But both of them are Illegal - so when we think its a deal the law agrees - regardless of your moral standing. For your information I have told sagrednarghile.com (the ones which hookahhookah have taken a copyrigthed book from) that their book (and other of their webcontent) where to find at hookahhookah. From their reply I understood that they where not aware of hookahhookah's violations but that they have experienced and dealt with similar violations several times in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roketsloth Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 hey dumbsh*t. notice that the poseur douchebag who wrote that fake message...was not me....he was a "guest" hilarious that you took the time to write all that sh*t out though. let me make this clear once and for all. i don't give a sh*t about hookahhookah.com or hookahculture.com so go f**k yoursel.f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kofod Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Hey equally dumb dumbsh*t (I should refrain from your choice of language but I fell that this must be the low level for which your discussion making is done) - do you remember that you in this very thread replied to me for someone else's posts? Do you remember that this went on for several days before you learned to read right and se who actually wrote the things you where answering? You used three days telling me that I should'nt tell you where to shop - in very indescrete formulations I should add. Before you three days later found out that you where adressing the wrong person. Unlike you (who had the opportunity to se that you where answering the wrong person) i cannot se if it was you not being able to sign in proberly or another unknown guest. But still - my last post and its arguements stand regardless of who it answers - guest or other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roketsloth Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 i have a hard time taking someone seriously...who is insulting me for not being able to "read, right, and se". I don't care if you're dutch, polish, or american...if you're going to insult my intelligence, learn how to do it without f**king it up. i don't know where you're pulling this 3 days crap out of ...you can clearly see, by actually looking at the thread, that all of the posts where I confused you with mr. scratch happend on the same day..within a matter of hours. i'm sorry you're confused. To avoid this later...i'll help you out, [b]i don't give a sh*t about this situation. it's over, stop discussing it, lameass. [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Calm down everyone, and go take a look at my Butane Torch thread, everybody could use one of these babies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kofod Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 @ Roketsloth Besides using the word dumbsh*t (which has a copy of your own word of use) I have not commented on wether your intelligence was something or the other. I simply pointed out a fact. If you find these facts insulting or saying of your intelligence - then its the facts and not my doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roketsloth Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 you're an idiot. seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To100YearsToLate Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Is this argument really necessary? I dont know how you guys got there, but its stolen material. Hookah Culture should be compensated for the work he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Scratch Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 [quote name='To100YearsToLate']Is this argument really necessary? I dont know how you guys got there, but its stolen material. Hookah Culture should be compensated for the work he did.[/quote] What? Stolen?! You mean I can't just go and copy someone elses material, stick my name on it an call it my own? And compensating someone for their hard work when all I have to do is rip it off? Unheard of! I thought everything on the internet was supposed to be free! Don't you know that if I can wrap my grubby mitts around it without a cop throwing me in the pokey it must be public domain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Scratch Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 [quote name='Roketsloth']i have a hard time taking someone seriously...who is insulting me for not being able to "read, right, and se". I don't care if you're dutch, polish, or american...if you're going to insult my intelligence, learn how to do it without f**king it up.[/quote] You must be a total internet NOOB if you don't realize that spelling flames are considered the lowest form of insult on just about any forum. This is even more true when they are directed at somone who is speaking English as a second language (and doing a prtty damn good job of it anyway). [quote name='Roketsloth']To avoid this later...i'll help you out, [b]i don't give a sh*t about this situation. it's over, stop discussing it, lameass. [/b][/quote] Uh, if you "don't give a sh*t" then why are you here bawling your freaking eyes out whenever somone takes a much-warranted swipe at the theives at hookah-hookah? What does it matter to you? If you "dont give a sh*t" then why do you keep coming back over and over and over again, with your dumb-assed, mistaken comments and your pointless, petty insults aimed at everyone who criticises the company? If you "don't give a sh*t", then why are you bending over backward to defend them, when you have already admitted that they have cheated HookahCulture? That doesn't appear to be the behavior of somone who "doesn't give a sh*t' at all. As for your statement "[b]it's over, stop discussing it[/b]", it seems to me that it is YOU who keeps coming back here, time and time again, to mewl and whine about it. This thread would have already been dead and gone if it weren't for you. Frankly, I hope you keep flapping your lips. As long as you keep yapping, this thread will remain active. As long as this thread is at the top of the board, it means more people find out about the unsavory theft that hookah-hookah has committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G. Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 [quote name='Mr. Scratch'][quote name='Roketsloth']To avoid this later...i'll help you out, [b]i don't give a sh*t about this situation. it's over, stop discussing it, lameass. [/b][/quote]Uh, if you "don't give a sh*t" then why are you here bawling your freaking eyes out whenever somone takes a much-warranted swipe at the theives at hookah-hookah? [/quote] Well, at this point I think Roketsloth has probably earned himself the name "Troll," wouldn't you say? It often seems the best way to rid oneself of a troll infection is to starve them... Nice point about keeping the thread on the top of the forum, though... E.G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roketsloth Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 mr. scratch i hope you get raped and thrown in a lake. i love how if i respond to posts directed at/insulting me...i'm a troll...but if you guys constantly repeat the same sh*t about hookahookah being theives...you're...i don't even know what you are...i don't speak internet nerdery like "noob" "flamefest' and "troll" you f**king losers. what are you like 50 mr. scratch? seriously...shut the f**k up. don't go around whining that hookahhookah are theives and then tell me not to whine when i'm arguing with someone else. go shove your head back up your tired ass. < TROLL f**king nerds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roketsloth Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 eat my sh*t. i'm not leaving the forum because you assholes don't like my opinion and get mad when i don't just rollover after you spout your bullsh*t. go f**k yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I was just curious who owns and moderates this forum. It seems to me that a banning might not be a bad idea at this point, of a certain n00b member who doesn't have enough decency to discuss forum matters with proper forum ettiquette. Food for thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To100YearsToLate Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 seriously. are there admins or mods here? this attitude change needs to be dealt with. furthermore i think the "guest" poster needs to be eliminated. everyone should register, as this creates accountability for what one says. it would also hopefully eliminate the "poseuring" that I've seen occur in the past few days. My personal opinion is that hookah-hookah is in the wrong. If someone else thinks otherwise, thats fine. To me it shows their true character. I choose to stand up against them by not supporting their sites or buying their products. Good massael or not, I'd expect anyone with some ethics to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roketsloth Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 hey mathazar...you can direct your comments directly to me. it's ok. i started the debate as a casual discussion, people flipped out, i reacted, they told me to shut up, i cussed them out...now i'm a "troll" who should be banned....or "an attitude change that needs to be dealt with". fascists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I don't think you ABSOLUTELY need to be banned, I just think you ought to tone down your language. I, personally, would like to see you become a valued member of the forum, as you CERTAINLY do seem to be someone with a strong opinion on things. But, if you could simply lighten-up on the attitude and stop swearing at everyone who oposes you, then I think you may have a chance in the future of being accepted as a welcome member of the boards. I've seen peoples attitudes towards aggressive posters change almost overnite, when that person decided to change his attitude towards others. I don't think it's neccessary at this point for you to apologise to anyone, as you were just stating your opinion. But, PLEASE, lighten-up on the language. I come to this forum because it's a nice friendly place where everyone is friends. We're a community of like-minded people who like to joke around, post reviews, and generally just provide valuable information to those who need it. To100YearsToLate........you're passing-up a seriously good brand of tobacco. The Apple which I'm smoking right now is OUTSTANDING!!! The BEST Apple I've EVER smoked.......PERIOD!!! If you don't want to support Hookah-Hookah, then go to their sister company, SaharaSmoke.com, and buy these flavors from them. Hazelnut, Apple, Grape, and Melon. You WON'T be disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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