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It would appear you did not take our conversation seriously. I have STILL been receiving complaints on you left and right, so I have no choice but to let you go from the forum, man. Wish you the best.

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Not to be a nosy nancy (more so curious what causes this to happen) but what type of complaints causes someone it be let go?

 

Spouting misinformation, excessive annoyance, going way off-topic... I must have at least 10 PMs regarding him in my inbox. I've talked to him about it, says he won't do it anymore, but doesn't change a thing next time he posts. As one member who also talked to him about it said, "in one ear and out the other." Anyway, I'm just tired of dealing with the situation. I hate to lose an active member, but at the same time, perhaps he's driving away others?

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Is this related to the shout box discussion?

 

I think it has more to do with situations like the shoutbox ... over and over and over ... not that specific shoutbox situation ... more how often stuff like that happened.

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Is this related to the shout box discussion?

 

I think it has more to do with situations like the shoutbox ... over and over and over ... not that specific shoutbox situation ... more how often stuff like that happened.

 

 

Precisely.

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He was a little annoying, but I guess I didn't see it as often as you guys, I can think of a couple times that he was off topic. But if you warned him and he didn't listen well, that sucks for him. 

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Btw, someone told me that he is now posting as "Durka Durka Durrrr" or some shit on another hookah forum he has been banned from before. I have a feeling he won't last long before they figure it out. :)


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i guess thats what happens when your dealing with a "wildcard".. 

Seems like we need to label some other's then now that we have a "wildcard" of the forum. Hahaha

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Well now he is pleading his case via PM on another forum:

 


Hey Chris, what's going on? I'm not going to argue with you or plead to get unbanned i made a mistake.
However i did not post more stupid threads. i simply made a comment in the chatbox about my bowl experiences I never never used a tangiers mini or medium or large bowls. I didn't even know i stated false information. I mean you could have warned me that i was wrong on that 1 and gave me a 1 month ban. I am not going to get upset nor do i have any ill will toward you or any members of HF. I'm not good at forums but i just feel that was a little harsh. However i'd still like to keep in touch and maybe at somepoint if you don't mind, I'd like to come back and make a new account on HF next year. However the best thing would have been to give me a temporary ban explaining that i was wrong about pico bowls. The only bowls i have used are tangiers smalls, picos aliens, harmony and that Caravan phunnel + a few chinese phunnels. So maybe i didn't know much about which bowls are the best for heat management to begin with. Anyways I wish i would have pm'd you about which bowls are the best for heat management before speaking form my personal experiences now :-( However i did not make any more thoughtless posts and i stopped drunk posting. What i said happened in the chatbox. Is there anything that can be done to get me back on that forum someday? I have no ill will towards anyone and It was the 1 forum i thought i could really be a part of. I never fit in on any forum before hookahforum :-(. In any case i understand you were doing your job and i know you're a good guy. I just never knew people got so upset over my lack of knowledge over certain things. Thank you for at least being polite and wishing me all the best. I wish all the best to you as well but i felt that talking to you about this to see if anything can be worked out would be a possible course of action. I did take our conversation seriously which is why i thought i'd be better suited saying stuff in the chatbox than posting. I didn't think that counts as posting i just talked about the bowls i had experience with I am sure you read the chatbox. So i guess i was wrong without knowing.   I wish things could have gone differently as i love the HF community it is the only forum i can feel that I'm truly a part of.    I'm curious what rule i broke as i did not make any more drunk threads or stupid posts i stated my opinion of the pico bowl in the chat box. I with we can work something out as i was not aware that was false information you have to understand that i took our coversation seriously i honestly thought i knew what  i was talking about. how was i supposed to know the Pico bowl isnt good for heat. I wish you would have corrected me on that and gave me a temp ban instead of just perm banning. usually when someone makes mistakes like this they get a temp ban. I'm sure some people are curious as to what i did wrong. I understand you did your job. I just really wish i can come back some day. I'm not smart about posting but i didnt make anymore posts i just talked in the chatbox which is why i am so confused to why this happened. Any chance we can reason this out? Please let me know if there is anything i can do to right my mistakes. I just think a permament ban was to harsh for something like this . I wonder what the complaining people said last night. I can't see what i did wrong last night can you please explain at the very least? In either case i have no hard feelings im just a bit sad is all.
 
 
           All the best, Jason aka A Sharrp Syrian of HF

 


How can that chatbox discussion even cause this. i wonder who would take there time to complain to you about that. I get that i make stupid posts but whats the point of even being on a forum if people can complain about people over and over? It is the people who keep complaining about other members that slow the forum down. give it a year and maybe you will understand. I can't be down about this forever... Farewell i guess...

 

And my reply:

 


I don't think you understand, nor will you ever. It wasn't just the shoutbox conversation. It was a little bit of everything amounting up which led to your ban, including you ignoring my warning, along with the fact that you are notorious for making multiple accounts all over the online hookah community- Wildcard, It'sAlwaysSunny, Unpredicable, Crazy Ace, PA Dweller, and A Sharrrp Sybian. You even go under an alias on your Facebook page (Leroy Jenkins). Multiple accounts is highly frowned upon on not only HF, but all of the hookah forums. That is what ultimately led to my perma-ban decision. And no, I will not allow you to make another account in the future. Not in a month, not in a year, not ever.
 
Btw, don't be surprised if other forums follow suit. I know you have already been banned at least once on all of the other hookah forums, so they're bound to ban your other accounts sooner or later. You aren't as dumb as you lead on; you know you're being banned and why, because you think it's okay to just simply make another account. Good luck finding a forum that deals with you.
 
Cheers,
Chris
 
P.S. Please do not use Eric's forum again to contact me. I have a lot of respect for him, and do not like using his forum to discuss Hookah Forum business.
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I think you handled the situation professionally and exactly the way it should have been dealt with. I applaud your professionalism and support you 100%
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I think you handled the situation professionally and exactly the way it should have been dealt with. I applaud your professionalism and support you 100%

Agreed. Good job Chris :)

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I feel that HF consists of many well-respected members that keep the crap to a minimum. No inside jokes in every thread, no rude comments towards new members with a question. It's a better place now without garbage posts in every thread, drunken excuses for being annoying. But with that being said, I do have a feeling that my posts are not always appropriate or on-track to the discussion... If anyone has a problem with my posts in particular, feel free to PM me. 

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I feel that HF consists of many well-respected members that keep the crap to a minimum. No inside jokes in every thread, no rude comments towards new members with a question. It's a better place now without garbage posts in every thread, drunken excuses for being annoying. But with that being said, I do have a feeling that my posts are not always appropriate or on-track to the discussion... If anyone has a problem with my posts in particular, feel free to PM me. 


Nah you're cool, wek-sos. I actually rather enjoy your posts. :)

Thanks guys for your kind words. I try to keep this place as open as possible, and not allow one person to drive away others. I believe that is what was happening in this situation.


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I always worry that my posts are gonna be annoying or way off track with the conversation. Even in situations where they would be on track. I still have that worry, but I am paranoid. 

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Fellas, fellas, don't worry about that stuff. It is ok to joke around and be yourselves ... I think Sybian was more just saying his opinion about anything and everything even when he hadn't tried the product. Many statements he made were so outlandish and ridiculous it was obvious he hadn't had experience with specific things he was talking about.

 

Just be yourself, and post when you think you can be of TRUE help to the OP.

 

Not saying Sybian was a bad dude because he wasn't, I just think he went too far with his "opinion" and made too many false statements that were steering people in the wrong direction.

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Well guys, sorry I was the one who sent em on this way.  At the time I didn't realize he would go off topic so much.   <_<

Definitely can't blame yourself PJ. Well I guess you could just say you were drunk.....

 

Chreees, should have sent you that tidbit sooner! I'm just glad everyone who purchased from him had a good experience. That is my biggest concern with multiple account users. 

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Well I'm relieved that this wasn't about what happened in the shoutbox alone. Cause I really didn't see anything overly excessive or abusive in his postings, they were in the same vein as my own, simply discussing/disagreeing with someone. 

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Yeah but the comment he made in the shoutbox is not opinion, he made a false statement. It's like saying Tangiers doesn't last long. Or Nakhla is overpriced. It is a false statement.

 

His "opinion" was actually stating a false statement. Which is the issue with most things he said. He spread tons of false information constantly.

 

There is a difference.

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