Codyb88 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 What do you guys think? Apparently they won't ghost. I purchased one (possibly rather stupidly, however I'm intrigued) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 They're cool and all, but the price point isn't where I'd like it to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitchy Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) personally not a fan. put it beside a nawras or a elmas .. its just plain and boring to me + expensive interested to see if they ghost or not tho Edited April 4, 2014 by Twitchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wek-sos Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I would be interested if they made it in a raw aluminum finish and cut the price in half. I don't need one stem for every flavor, especially not with such a plain design. For that price, I would rather buy one of the Brazil Hookahs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I think they look like shit ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I think they look like shit ... Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Ugly, too expensive....and if that color is anodized on there.... DEADLY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchyfam Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Starbuzz is BULLSHIT.... only reason its so godlike atm cuz vendors rate it up the arse such as HJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchyfam Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Ugly, too expensive....and if that color is anodized on there.... DEADLY! care to explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyb88 Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) I don't exactly like the look but I'm excited to try it out. I'm sure I can sell it if I don't like it rather easily. I wanted one with a slimmer design. Stuie, what would be deadly? Is smoking from an anodized pipe going to kill me? I'm sure the inside is surgical grade without paint. I also agree the price is fucking retarded but I assume the materials are more so expensive than the materials used on pipes currently so I'm biting the bullet there. Maybe the price will drop some day. Maybe not. Who knows. Edited April 4, 2014 by Codyb88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CzechMate Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 i dont understand this "surgical" grade materials? Do these companies just apply these terms as marketing strategies? Like "aircraft" aluminum or "space grade" metals, "super" fruits? What makes this material "surgical"? Sounds likes a great way just to increase the price to associate a material with a respected industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitchy Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Yep pretty much ^ so much better then plain everyday brass.. Not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wek-sos Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) I am surprised the "Challenger" hookah is not made of "space grade" metals But really. What is aircraft aluminum? 6061 aluminum, same thing my bike is made out of. Surgical metal? Taken from Wikipedia: "There is no formal definition on what constitutes a 'surgical stainless steel', so product manufacturers and distributors may apply the term to refer to any grade of corrosion resistant steel." 440 is considered "surgical" and my Benchmade knife is made from 440 stainless steel... anyone need surgery? Anyone want to see the rust on my Benchmade before you buy a "surgical grade" hookah? Edited April 5, 2014 by wek-sos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitchy Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Lol! Good to know ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CzechMate Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 What websites are selling this pipe? what is the lowest price you guys have seen it going for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 The process of anodizing color onto metal mostly aluminum since it works better, but other metals do take it well. The chemical process makes a great looking product, but chemical residues stay on the color in the process. Heating around the bowl adapter will release these chemicals. Basically the release is somewhere on the level of toxicity on chlorine gas. I can't remember the specifics. I heard all this at a lecture at University of Texas when I was visiting over a decade ago. That has just stuck in my mind. I am sure if I had to do the research i could pull up papers and reports that verify this. Just don't have the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightHawk63 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 How hot until these chemicals are released though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 don't recall but coconut coals get up to 600+ degrees i believe there is probably enough transference in heat to get the process started. But like I said this is only if it's anodized. I have never trusted colored hookahs. I am still on the fence about electroplating...like the black KMs My wife has one but I am just weary about them. I just play it safe. Plus I don't like supporting SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wek-sos Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) Why is everything after post #5 in bold? http://www.superiormetals.us/faq-is-anodizing-safe.htm http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=dailytip&dbid=66 http://www.anodizing.org/Anodizing/benefits.html to sum it up: "An anodized finish is chemically stable, will not decompose; is non-toxic; and is heat-resistant to the melting point of aluminum (1,221 degrees F.)" http://www.hookahforum.com/topic/18104-at-what-temprature-does-shisha-coal-burn/?p=209036 461C = 862F and that is peak coal temperature. Transferred to the bowl, grommet, then the stem, much less. I can take off a bowl painfully with my bare hands when hot, and my brass stems I can touch the tray rest without feeling any discomfort. But that is brass, which has roughly 1/3rd the thermal conductivity of aluminum. So really, the brass hookah would stay hotter at the bowl port, while the aluminum hookah would dissipate the heat throughout the stem. So is this of any concern? Yes and no. If you have enough heat on the bowl to melt your aluminum foil, obviously it's not going to be good for you. But since you have variables like a clay bowl, rubber grommet, and shisha to absorb some of the heat, you should theoretically never get the pipe hot enough to cause any damage. I never had problems with my KM Black Shareef (painted bowl port) but like Stuie said, I don't trust colored pipe, and I won't be supporting SB. But all of this information has the potential of being incorrect depending on what anodize SB uses, the specific aluminum used to make the pipe, etc... Edited April 5, 2014 by wek-sos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Well Wek-sos has corrected me. Thanks for that, Glad the truth and final word is out there now. Now I know for sure. I still distrust color stems and SB though. Give me a fully cast stem in natural color any day! Something in Hass's sig may be messed up code wise. Mine was messed up and caused all that a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 If you bought it and it's your style then I say go for it. Personally, I'm not into it. I can't tell from the pics posted but it looks like it has a common chamber for the hose and purge. Also, the hose port itself looks oddly shaped and I question how well a hose will stay in. All that aside, a single bowl of nakhla cardamom will ghost that motherfucker like you wouldn't believe! Truly a real mans tobacco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I actually just trolled the personal facebook page for SB (not a like page, a person's account who distributes). They had posted a picture of their crate of these and I stated my "political" opinion of "why would anyone buy this junk? Why would anyone support your business when you sue all the competition off the market with petty flavor name patents such as guava"(reference tangiers guava now being named guajava). He removed my post and messaged me asking why I would post this on an unrelated matter, and we can privately discuss legal matters if I wish. I said "what, did I lie?! Shit or get off the pot" . I get too pissy over politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyb88 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 If you bought it and it's your style then I say go for it. Personally, I'm not into it. I can't tell from the pics posted but it looks like it has a common chamber for the hose and purge. Also, the hose port itself looks oddly shaped and I question how well a hose will stay in. All that aside, a single bowl of nakhla cardamom will ghost that motherfucker like you wouldn't believe! Truly a real mans tobacco. They're definitely not common. They are traditional chambers, else I wouldn't have purchased one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRSX Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I like them making hookahs in the US, but those aren't really anything special to me. A step up from their usual gaudy/ugly dragon/ skull monstrosities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 If you bought it and it's your style then I say go for it. Personally, I'm not into it. I can't tell from the pics posted but it looks like it has a common chamber for the hose and purge. Also, the hose port itself looks oddly shaped and I question how well a hose will stay in. All that aside, a single bowl of nakhla cardamom will ghost that motherfucker like you wouldn't believe! Truly a real mans tobacco. They're definitely not common. They are traditional chambers, else I wouldn't have purchased one. I ain't trying to rip on you for it, I'm not one of the narghile elitists. Does it come with a vase and tray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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