jtemes Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 For those of you Canadians I was wondering what kind of experiences you have had shipping things (including tobacco) to Canada. I wanna know: Did the package get taxed at the border? What site did you order from? What site has the cheapest shipping to Canada? (So far I've found Hookah-shisha.com, $14) How long did it take to get your order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ryan Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Order: 22" Egyptian w/ free Romman - 100g Did the package get taxed at the border? No What site did you order from? Hookah-Shisha.com How long did it take to get your order? 16 days Order: 1 box Golden coals, a couple bowls, extra grommets Did the package get taxed at the border? No What site did you order from? Hookah-Shisha.com How long did it take to get your order? 10 days Order: Al Amir - 500g Did the package get taxed at the border? Yes What site did you order from? SocialSmokeHookah.com How long did it take to get your order? 5 days What site has the cheapest shipping to Canada? SocialSmokeHookah.com - $8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtemes Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 How much was the tax on the 500g? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homicidalmaniac Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Order: 3x250g. Al WAHA + 1 box of golden coals Did the package get taxed at the border? No What site did you order from? Hookah-Shisha.com How long did it take to get your order? 5 Order: 2 syrian chiller hookahs + all the freebies (including 200g. of romman tobacco) Did the package get taxed at the border? Yes (36$ approx.) What site did you order from? Hookah-Shisha.com How long did it take to get your order? 18-19 days Order: mya QT special ( including 500g. of havana) + 1 box of 3kingscoals Did the package get taxed at the border? Yes (40$) What site did you order from? elitehookah.com How long did it take to get your order? 5 days hookah-shisha always sent my packages as gifts.. the only order from them that has been opened at the border was my 2 syrian chiller and the package was really big. Elitehookah is only 12$ for all orders of 26$ and over, but they ship via UPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumonshoe Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 hmm i had 150g of shisha and a hookah shipped. I paid something liek 25$ US in shipping. Then when i had to go pick it up from the post office i got charged $27 CDN for handling and tax on the value fo the hookah since that was declared. They did not open the package or detect the shisha though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtemes Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 great replies so far keep em comin. seems hookah-shisha.com is a good choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGuy Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Can't you send it over as a gift or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ryan Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 [quote name='jtemes']How much was the tax on the 500g?[/quote] In BC PST on shisha is $0.179/Gram, the federal excise duty is $0.0598/Gram, and the general duty is 4% of the value. On top of that the customs officers decided that the total value declared ($9 IIRC) was to low for their liking so they chose a random value of $50. The total IIRC was over $135. Basically, the exact opposite of everything the customs dude on the phone said would happen, happened! I filed a complaint, explained to them the laws, and got the majority of my money back. Customs = :twisted: and stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ryan Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 [quote name='DizzyGuy']Can't you send it over as a gift or something?[/quote] You can try! Customs will always think of a way to make stuff up and try to get their money. Of course complaints work wonders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke69 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 I have only smoked out of a friends hookah 3 times but love it. I live in canada also and really want to be buy a hookah. The local stores have low quality shisha that is expensive and their hookahs also seem to be very expensive. I have found only one canadian hookah website "www.arguily.com" their hookahs seem to be much more expensive than U.S sites and lower quality. They also sell no shisha. I have looked long and hard for a canadian website. I have looked into buying one from the states and have heard that your purchase can be taxed anywhere from 20 to 40%. This thread may really help me though. good idea starting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onion Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Oh man, what a bloody amazing eye-opener! Seems that hookah-shisha has the best no-tax ratio, but I did a mock order once just to factor in how much shipping would cost and I think they wanted some fair change for it. Gonna call the customs office tomorrow to see if the rates are different for Ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 wrap it up like a gift, and put a b-day card on it XD someone here should start a service to do that for canadians, or maybe someone close to the border can drive it across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtemes Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 Ya. I used to be a fan of the whole drive it across scheme. Til they decided to search my car. but ya the wrap it up like a gift aint a bad idea. Plus it would be way more fun to open when it arrived. "Can't wait to see what it is!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onion Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 quick question - whats the discount code for hookah-shisha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtemes Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 [quote name='Onion']quick question - whats the discount code for hookah-shisha?[/quote] Hookah Forum just like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtemes Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 so everyone who has ordered to canada. do you think its completely random? it seems that the only packages that have gotten taxed are hookahs. im thinkin of placing an order from hookah-shisha.com for something like 1000-2000gs of shisha. problem is if they detected the shisha that would be one hefty tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ryan Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Well in my expierence it has been quite random. I've ordered shisha twice, once I did not pay taxes and the other time I was way over charged :roll: (it was sorted out). I have also ordered a hookah once and various hookah accessories multiple times from Hookah-Shisha.com, I was never taxed on any of those orders. I'm even looking at getting a QT or Ivory Tower from them because I'm willing to bet that I will not have to pay taxes or duty on the hookah or the 100g of free shisha. I'd say if you are a gambiling man then go for it... just be prepared to get a 2nd mortage so you can pay the duties and taxes. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onion Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 !!! Thats a hell of alot of duties to pay! Although somebody in the thread bought 3x250 so 1000 isnt terribly far off. H-S is probably your best bet then. In other news, I placed an order at H-S myself this afternoon! Ordered 250 g AF Strawberry 50g AW After Nine 50 g Havana Banana Cant wait to try something other than nakhla! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtemes Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 well ill be placing an order pretty soon. ill be sure to let all you canadians out there how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 just go for it you need to get those damn taxes removed, fight for your right, to hookah party XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmpeethree Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 if you live near the states, you can just have it shipped to states and mail it to yourself. that i get stuff mailed to, then pick it up for a small charge [from a mail box etc type of operation, completely legal for the public] i then put the shisha (200g) in ziplock bags and mailed it to myself in a padded envelope via USPS arrived a week later ive never experienced or heard of customs searching envelopes, espescially small ones. so if you live close to the border, or knows someoen that does, this is a viable option total cost: $8 shipped for 200gm (4 flavours) off ebay $2.50 "pick up" charge to the mail depot $2.50 USPS to canada airmail rate for 220g total cost: $13 USD for 200gr the local hookah shop charges $15 + tax on 50gr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtemes Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share Posted October 5, 2006 that's a good idea emmpeethree. im only 30 mins away from the border and happen to have friends and family south of the border that i visit fairly often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke69 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 so .ryan your saying that the duty being .179$ a gram. ( if i did this correctly) If you bought say 1000g of shisha you could possibly pay around 170$ tax for it? Not including the other taxes? Is it really worth the risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 i would do what emmpeethere does. Thats how i ship trades and such, in some ziploc freezer baggies in padded envelopes. As i said, someone close to the border needs to start this service XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ryan Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 [quote name='Luke69']so .ryan your saying that the duty being .179$ a gram. ( if i did this correctly) If you bought say 1000g of shisha you could possibly pay around 170$ tax for it? Not including the other taxes? Is it really worth the risk?[/quote] Yep, that is what could happen. Of course there are all sorts of confusing laws and rules about importing tobacco that must be taken into account e.g. gifts, personal vs. commercial use, duty free exemptions, weather or not they open the package, the total value, actual weight of the tobacco. Risking it is a personal decision. For me, it's not worth the risk... again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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