Cascadia

[Coleman]

So i was writing this yesterday for facebook, i realized the negative connotations it could have due to the ending part so i decided against posting it there and instead thought id share the piece with you. thanks to those who take the time to read.

 

When the Constitution of the United States of America was ratified it was never brought up that this union of states would be permanent. Some may see this as an oversight, while others will see that it was done that way on purpose. The original states that ratified the constitution left out anything about permanence due to the fact that they saw that states had every right to secede, and we saw that acted upon when the south attempted to secede but was met with opposition by the ever growing tyrannical power that was the state. Now in this day and age secession is still widely supported though spread out greatly and involving many different regions and bio-regions. Many in the south still feel that the south deserves to secede, Texas for many years has been in the works of doing so, and more recently a project called the free state project has arisen. The free state project, as some of you hopefully know, is a growing libertarian movement that attempts to bring together, in New Hampshire, all the libertarians it can amass to eventually lead to a secession at the hands of Libertarianism. While I support the cause I do not personally support the economics of this libertarian movement and would like to call to attention something similar. The Bio-region of Cascadia has been brought to attention since around the 1970's, spanning from some of the northernmost areas of California and all the way up to the southern area of Alaska. The bio-region exactly encompasses parts of California, Alaska, Idaho, Alberta Canada, and fully encompasses Oregon and Washington. The growing movement seeks to secede from United States in an attempt to form its own nation. Thomas Jefferson actually stated that he felt, the pacific northwest region would most likely secede from the United States and would become a key trading hub for the United States. The bio-region of Cascadia is quite economically sound already, and it is said were that area to secede it would flourish. The coastal location of it allows for it to become a major port state that would easily allow for trading goods world wide to further stimulate the economy. I fully support the secession of Cascadia, not only for its ability to thrive and to show states power over corrupt government but I also feel this would be an excellent opportunity to establish a movement similar to the free state project. The area itself is already showing signs of socialist support to begin with but I feel were a project, like the free state project, to be established for the socialist movement it would show people that socialism truly is a viable means of economics. Now there are many forms of socialism and the pacific northwest already shows signs of many forms, ranging from social democrats and democratic socialist, all the way to anarcho- communists and anarcho- syndicalists alike. My idea is that this Bio-region not only secede but each state, or even just mere cities be allowed to decide on their own choice of economic theory. This movement would not only show that these are viable economic systems, but that people support these economic systems and wish to be free to join together with other like minded individuals and work together. Personally I would support the free market socialist movement gaining headway in this movement, and using theories produced by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon and Benjamin Tucker to further their ideas and actualize them. Proudhon and Tucker alike both theorized of mode of economic change through small collectivization growing in numbers as new supporters felt  inclined to proceed. The idea was that a small city, town or even plot of land could grow in to a flourishing area of liberty and prosperity for the inhabitants. This is why I support the Cascadian secession movement, it's a symbol of what states can truly due and what we as people can do to show that we hold the power and that we are not afraid to use it. To those that took the time to read this, I thank you, and to those who skimmed through I ask of you please educate yourself on this movement, even if you do not support it, learn more about it and at least give those that do support it the ability to continue fighting for it.

 

I know I know that was pretty long, and I placed it in this area due to the political aspect and any discussions that Hopefully arise

[â€On]

My opinion, you don't want large countries like ours to be separated into bio-regions for the simple reason that bio-diversity means economical diversity, which means the country as a whole thrives. Interesting read, but I couldn't support it. I live in Alberta, and short of fishing and mineral mining, we have pretty much every other industry. We would do fine on our own. But, I don't want to sacrifice an entire country doing good because I think we should get rid of "dead weight". Have a look at Europe if you want to see what that kind of separation does.

[Chreees]

Horrible idea. More or less for the same reasons that Ty stated... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Coleman]

My opinion, you don't want large countries like ours to be separated into bio-regions for the simple reason that bio-diversity means economical diversity, which means the country as a whole thrives. Interesting read, but I couldn't support it. I live in Alberta, and short of fishing and mineral mining, we have pretty much every other industry. We would do fine on our own. But, I don't want to sacrifice an entire country doing good because I think we should get rid of "dead weight". Have a look at Europe if you want to see what that kind of separation does.

Horrible idea. More or less for the same reasons that Ty stated... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Heres the deal, the reason for bioregions or secession is due to the fact the vastness of this country and its differing opinions no longer speak for the people. They speak for the majority and secession is a means to end what some view as the oppression of not only their view points but what they feel is right for themselves. The issue with such large scale countries such as the US is that with our ever growing population, while the majority gets their voices heard the minority primarily go unnoticed. On top of this its no longer just about opposing view points, but on conflicting ideals of what the best economic form is for those people. Without the ability to secede we would never be allowed to try new concepts and see how they work compared to our current economic mode. My issue with stagnating the economic choices is were that to have happened in earlier years we still could have been living under feudal lords, like Japan was until how many years ago? Currently there are no political candidates that share my view at all, none even reach close to be perfectly honest. Rand Paul is praised with adoration due to his father's name but he is no different then any of the other republican candidates. The "revolutionary" Bernie Sanders is nothing more then a thief in businessman's clothes wanting to raise taxes exponentially to pay for everyone else. While I support the idea of community support I also support the idea of not having my money forcibly taken from me to pay for things I don't agree with. I also don't agree with the constant market manipulation that we are dealing with on a daily basis, especially the concept of companies "too big to fail". This sort of market manipulation is what leads to economic crises such as the great depression or those predict by Austrian economists such as Ron Paul and Murray Rothbard. I personally support the Tuckerite, socialist philosophy of free market socialist economics in the sense of allowing the market to take its course while using the Labour Theory of Value to lower goods prices to the point where profit would be nothing more then the cost of creating the product itself. Tucker discusses how competitive market economics paired with the Labour theory of Value could effect every aspect of the market, taking from political philosophers such as Karl Marx, Adam Smith, David Ricardo, and Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. I feel secession while possibly detrimental to the country would be greatly beneficial to the people themselves as our current political system is failing. Our current system is wrought with corruption from political bribes to gerrymandering. To top all that off we aren't living in an Orwellian nightmare, but a Huxleyian nightmare. I say this do to the fact the information is out there we just refuse to pay attention to it. Huxley's belief wasn't that the things we fear or hate would destroy us, like Orwell believed, but that the things we loved would destroy us. He feared that there would exist in this world so much information we would ignore what was in front of us, that books wouldn't be banned people would just have no drive to read them. Of all the dystopian ideas, I feel Huxley had it closest to the point. Instead of understanding what's going on in foreign countries we choose to sit and watch game shows. Instead of learning about our political system we choice to read the closest tabloid in the checkout line of the supermarket. We as citizens of this country neglect so much of what happens and to someone who tries to use their time to not fit in to this mode of thought I find it hard to cope with those basking in ignorance around me. This is why I support secession, not just for Cascadia but for any area that so wishes to secede, be it from their own country or the oppressive occupants of their country, such as Kurdistan and Palestine. Were it not for people's conscious choice to remain ignorant of the woes of those not only in foreign countries, but their own countries as well i feel maybe my opinion may differ, but as it stands now I cannot support our people or our governments action and the lack of voices being heard.

[Chreees]

Bro, seriously? You need to lay off the dope or something. Also, you may want to look into Bernie Sanders some more... He's not wanting to take your money by raising taxes to pay for things you don't agree with. All he's about is fair taxation (meaning the wealthy don't get all these crazy tax breaks and loopholes), break up the "too big to fail" banks and whatnot, etcetera. I feel like you got the dude totally wrong. All I ask is that you look into him some more, and I think you may find you like a lot of what he's all about. As for this crazy secession talk, it'd be a clusterfuck of epic proportions, if you ask me. I feel like next thing you're gonna lay I me is that you believe you're a sovereign citizen, and U.S. laws don't apply to you. :lol: Seriously though, where's the old (young?) Coleman who was reasonable and didn't do all this crazy talk? Haha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Coleman]

Bro, seriously? You need to lay off the dope or something. Also, you may want to look into Bernie Sanders some more... He's not wanting to take your money by raising taxes to pay for things you don't agree with. All he's about is fair taxation (meaning the wealthy don't get all these crazy tax breaks and loopholes), break up the "too big to fail" banks and whatnot, etcetera. I feel like you got the dude totally wrong. All I ask is that you look into him some more, and I think you may find you like a lot of what he's all about. As for this crazy secession talk, it'd be a clusterfuck of epic proportions, if you ask me. I feel like next thing you're gonna lay I me is that you believe you're a sovereign citizen, and U.S. laws don't apply to you. Seriously though, where's the old (young?) Coleman who was reasonable and didn't do all this crazy talk? Haha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sanders, is a social politician, his economic Ideals are lackluster at best. While he may have some interesting stances on social issues, he still has no chance of success. His poll numbers are rising but the the second he even have a chance one of two things will happen. 1) they gerrymander the fuck out of it to take majority support from him 2) he wins, none of his policies get enacted due to strong opposition in the senate, House of representatives etc. Also on top of  that chris, these ideas aren't really absurd. Something like what i'm talking about was done by Josiah Warren. Josiah Warren was an early american Social Anarchist who taught Benjamin Tucker everything he knew, especially regarding anarchist market socialism (mutualism). attempting to change a broken system from the inside reminds of an old Nietzsche quote, "for he who battles with monster should be wary, lest he to become a monster. For if you gaze long in to the abyss, it gazes back in to you". As for where the old me went, I'm still here I've just been learning about politics and philosophy on my own. philosophy has taught me many things, the greatest of which was from Max Stirner, who stated freedom is nothing more then self responsibility. he once said, "If it is right for me, it is right. it is possible that it is wrong for others: let them take care of themselves". Some other major influences was Camus who once said, "the only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion". there were many other influences but there's no need to list them all.

[Chreees]

Let's just agree to disagree on the Cascadia thing. It makes my head hurt just thinking about it lol. As for Bernie... Just wait until the DNC finally lets him debate Hillary. He's already gaining ground on her before the debates. I think you'll see him run way past her after them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Coleman]

Let's just agree to disagree on the Cascadia thing. It makes my head hurt just thinking about it lol. As for Bernie... Just wait until the DNC finally lets him debate Hillary. He's already gaining ground on her before the debates. I think you'll see him run way past her after them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ill believe that when trump wins, things like this has happened before, funniest time correlates to now pretty well. Clinton and Bush were running against each other and in swooped a billionaire who swooped in and started rising in the polls. next thing you know billionaire loses. this year, trump is that billionaire. Sanders ideas are just repeating the Nordic capitalist model, its nothing new and it wont succeed in our country due to people. Just personal opinion, but i wont be supporting Sander's or the state.

[Chreees]

Fair enough. One thing's for sure- it'll be interesting to see how this election plays out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Coleman]

Fair enough. One thing's for sure- it'll be interesting to see how this election plays out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years. -Lysander Spooner