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The first issue of Culture Clash Magazine is up! Sorry we were a little behind schedule on this issue.

Check it out at:
[url="http://clashofculture.com"]clashofculture.com[/url] or [url="http://theccmag.com"]theccmag.com[/url]

I'm sure you'll have plenty of input. Go nuts. Remember, it's supposed to be a happy, community exercise. Feel free to ridicule the layout, graphics, writing etc...

Love,

Doug
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Looks like a pile of shit to me. But that's ok, you're not going to reply to this anyway, right? SHENANINGANS! :lol: Behold, the douchebaggery:

[url="http://www.clashofculture.com/10.1.2006/forums.htm"]http://www.clashofculture.com/10.1.2006/forums.htm[/url]

EDIT: I did like Lukasa's article though! Way to go man.
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[quote name='Calcartman']wtf.
Do they go to the same hookahforum we go to?[/quote]

Yes, but it is SO OBVIOUS that they are pissed because they were called out and pooped on in our wonderful little corner of the internets.
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[quote name='hookamag']The first issue of Culture Clash Magazine is up!  Sorry we were a little behind schedule on this issue.

Check it out at:
[url="http://clashofculture.com"]clashofculture.com[/url] or [url="http://theccmag.com"]theccmag.com[/url]

I'm sure you'll have plenty of input.  Go nuts.  Remember, it's supposed to be a happy, community exercise.  Feel free to ridicule the layout, graphics, writing etc...

Love,

Doug[/quote]

love? kiss me you fool.

Did anyone read the review? thats shamelesss bashing of this forum, I as well as alot of other members on this forum have been glad to help out all the new guys as well as giving them every point there is to the trade, making videos, posting pictures, helping with orders, sending samples, trading shisha i mean everything! does anyone agree with me? I mean we always help out the guy who posts HELP EMERGENCY or NEW TO SHISHA or WHAT FLAVORS DO YOU RECOMMEND they always get a hand from someone like mush or yash or tang or ion or any of those guys.
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Its a pretty excellent web layout, in my opinion. But I think the review of Hookahforum is wrong except for the "SHENANIGANS!!!" part. New people are received pretty well here. In fact, I'm probably the biggest jerk to newbies, and I'm not even a huge jerk at all. I'm just fightin' for the respek us 05's deserve. [LOL]

Anyways.

ps, thanks Ioannisds
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[quote name='EvansLight']i feel it as well. Seriously thought this isnt a mag, this is a ezine at best. And a kinda craptacular one at that. Kinda glad i didnt spend time on a new article.[/quote]

Somebody's jealous :roll:

:wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Edit: But seriously folks. Is it necessary to flame somebody when they have even a VAGUE affiliation with a company or business?

Look at it this way, at least you have some good honest HF members helping to review products for this place. You can trust us to be fair and honest.
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[quote name='Lukasa'][quote name='EvansLight']i feel it as well. Seriously thought this isnt a mag, this is a ezine at best. And a kinda craptacular one at that. Kinda glad i didnt spend time on a new article.[/quote]

Somebody's jealous :roll:

:wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Edit: But seriously folks. Is it necessary to flame somebody when they have even a VAGUE affiliation with a company or business?

Look at it this way, at least you have some good honest HF members helping to review products for this place. You can trust us to be fair and honest.[/quote]

agreed on that edit. but are you saying we have an affiliation with a company or the hookahmag does? I dont think we do just some of our members happen to be owners of websites or brands but were never discriminate
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I call shenanigans.

Clash of Culture, I would so spit on your burger right now. Fuck it.
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[quote name='[LB']]

agreed on that edit. but are you saying we have an affiliation with a company or the hookahmag does? I dont think we do just some of our members happen to be owners of websites or brands but were never discriminate[/quote]

No no no. I was saying that the users here tend to be kind of hostile towards vendors coming onto our turf (ie, GH, and HH) . Granted the likes of GenuineHookah and HookahHookah( aka hookahgal) were big idiots and conducted themselves as such, it has become the norm for the forum to stamp on people that come here who are not STRICTLY personal shisha enthusiasts, people who own a company, or a retail site, or in this case an e-zine.

Some of the hostility is justified (HH, GH, etc) Some of it is not.


Edit: Who is the other product reviewer besides me?
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I dont think there is really hostility toward the vendors that come on. HH and GH are two notable exceptions, with good reason.

If a vendor comes on and just starts spewing advertisements, we tell them thanks for coming out and ask them to stay and join us for real conversation, the point of the board. If they choose not to, thats fine. But if a vendor just spews their ads then leaves, it really is a violation of the terms of service for the forum.
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[quote name='nuschultz']I dont think there is really hostility toward the vendors that come on.  HH and GH are two notable exceptions, with good reason.

If a vendor comes on and just starts spewing advertisements, we tell them thanks for coming out and ask them to stay and join us for real conversation, the point of the board.  If they choose not to, thats fine.  But if a vendor just spews their ads then leaves, it really is a violation of the terms of service for the forum.[/quote]

This particular person (hookamag) just came on the site offering the opportunity to become a reviewer for his e-zine. People started calling shenanigans out of the blue. He gave an unsavory review about our forum.

I'm going to back out of this conversation now, because people are going to start pointing the finger at me for being a vendor-sympathizer.
joseph mccarthy would love this :roll:
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[quote name='Lukasa'][quote name='nuschultz']I dont think there is really hostility toward the vendors that come on.  HH and GH are two notable exceptions, with good reason.

If a vendor comes on and just starts spewing advertisements, we tell them thanks for coming out and ask them to stay and join us for real conversation, the point of the board.  If they choose not to, thats fine.  But if a vendor just spews their ads then leaves, it really is a violation of the terms of service for the forum.[/quote]

This particular person (hookamag) just came on the site offering the opportunity to become a reviewer for his e-zine. People started calling shenanigans out of the blue. He gave an unsavory review about our forum.

I'm going to back out of this conversation now, because people are going to start pointing the finger at me for being a vendor-sympathizer.
joseph mccarthy would love this :roll:[/quote]

I think the shenanigans were called this last time because awhile back hookahmag came around looking for reviewers, and basically ignored a bunch of folks here who wanted to do it (including Tangiers and nuschultz, I believe). Typical "boy who cried wolf" scenario: they come around again, offering freebies for review, and of course there is a healthy dose of scepticism towards their offer. Between this and the completely unprofessional (and at times, flat out false) review they just gave our forum... poop!
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yea iaon said it just about right. I feel they just wanted some reviews, and didnt want to really be apart of the forum. I know there just a mag and wanted to give free samples, but still thats advertising. And of course the review of our froums was kinda flat out stupid. Just because we were skeptical about th offer, since it was a new member, we instantly are a useless forum saying just use search, and that theres 2 of us that post replies to others threads? im sorrybut i gotta call shenanigans on that one. And they are an EZINE!! I see no printed magazine. Print= Magazine, Online= E-Zine :P
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i read this guy's review of our site, and i was pissed. he came in, gave a vague offer of free goodies in exchange for reviews (not such a bad idea, i suppose), but then he ignored many people who wanted to help! he ignored the most knowledgable people!

he said that new people would just be "pummeled", however when i was new, i was welcomed and now, after many tries at different forums, this one make sme feel like i belong. i was able to contribute constructively, and i even made some friends! he writes as if he was here for years and grew tired of it. wasnt he here for, like, just a bit? what a dick! this guy can kiss the fattest part of my ass.
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Hahaha a bad review of the forum thats cute. Asif people are going to go to your website and read the review before coming to the biggest hookah forum on the net wishful thinking darling. On a more mature note this forum is actually very good to newbs which is apparent by the veterans answering the same old beginner questions over and over again.

P.S. From the article "I used to enjoy the forum a lot, but it's gotten a little bit out of control."

Ummm you only have 6 posts :shock:
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