azcoyote Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Had to open the shisha that came with my persian hookah. There were two unopened 250 g packets. This one from India smells of molassas. It was black as tar and rather stiff with no syrup. I added a bit of water and some fresh glycerine to a small pile. After some energetic mixing it absorbed the addional fluids and softed up considerably. The aroma of molassas intensified upon mixing. I put about a tablespoon in my standard, covered egyptian bowl atop an egyptian rotator. Cool well water, no ice. I fired it with two half rounds of finger coals on a screen. Shisha not touching screen. It was smoking like a champ in no time. More true tobacco flavor than any other shisha I've tried. The taste was surprisingly smooth, but a little pungent too. People, I am used to AW, generally considered a strong smoke. I HAD TO put the pipe down after a 10 minute session. The buzz was hitting me hard. I was stupified for maybe another 15 minutes. I never felt sick, just a tingling and rather warm all over. It's been over an hour and I the effect is still very much there, but totally comforatble. I'm not even thinking about smoking again for a few hours at least. I'd venture to say a full bowl would take out a table of Nahkla or AW smokers long before they killed it. This must be some kind of traditional tobacco that's supposed to be an acquired taste. I actually do like it - in very small doses. If you are a nicotine fiend like me, you will too. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: [b][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 damn, that is like the aged bourbon of the shisha world I would be really tempted to mix a little of it with a fav flavor to see how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skimo Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 was it zag? the descrition was just like Nahkla Zag. but I guess stronger. Go with what Scalli said and mix a bit with somthing else and see how you like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcoyote Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 Probably is a zag style from India. I will try mixing it later when I stabilize a bit. The flavor is so dark and rich, bourbon is not a bad analogy. Since there is a sugarcane presence, perhaps it's more like myers dark rum. I think mixing 1/3 zag with some sharp top note like lemon or mint could work well. :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skimo Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Well I would mix it with a washed shisha seeing how it's going to kick your arse haha, I mixed Nahkla with Al Waha and the buzz was alot stronger. Would it make since if both shishas are .5 that it would be stronger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcoyote Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 [quote name='Skimo']Well I would mix it with a washed shisha seeing how it's going to kick your arse haha, I mixed Nahkla with Al Waha and the buzz was alot stronger. Would it make since if both shishas are .5 that it would be stronger?[/quote] If both are the same nic strengh, I can't see how mixing them would yield a stronger smoke. However, nicotine is not the only alkaloid present in the leaf. Mixing brands of the same nic level could increase potency. Since they are not measured, we will never know. But it's possible that these other alkaloids could potentiate the nicotine. I agree that mixing with a washed type like Layalina or Al Amir would tone it down a notch. Probably a good move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 you should be able to have two votes, because flavor and buzz preference are on two different scales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcoyote Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 [quote name='[LB']]you should be able to have two votes, because flavor and buzz preference are on two different scales.[/quote] I agree. Or allow a second question in the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 i personally go for buzz first. If its not a high nicotine content brand i dont usually look at it. But there are rare times when im looking for a certain flavour ill look at the washed brands, hence the reason i have and love AA Blackberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skimo Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I've heard a good number of people getting a buzz of washed shisha, is that just because they arn't use to it? I always found that weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 well .01% nicotine is enough for some. it has to do with your body chemistry, how you smoke, how often you smoke, your body weight, and blah blah blah. To each his own, as for me it takes a good 10-20 straight hits off unwashed to get a nice buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersianPride Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 What the hell you actually smoked the 15 year old shisha. I consider you both a legend and an idiot all at the same time. Why exactly did the guy that sold you the hookah give you the 15 year old shisha in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skimo Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Maybe its like wine, as long as its stored right, as it ages it gets better lol, but im not willing to try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcoyote Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 [quote name='PersianPride']What the hell you actually smoked the 15 year old shisha. I consider you both a legend and an idiot all at the same time. Why exactly did the guy that sold you the hookah give you the 15 year old shisha in the first place.[/quote] You would have to ask him. I didn't exactly buy the hookah because the unamed shisha was included. I didn't buy for the hoses either. Awful gay sequined Liberace hoses. Yuck. It was not listed as 15 year old shisha on the auction, just included 2 packets of hookah molassas. Now the shisha was unopened. Some may have tossed that stuff as too old. But some things do improve with age, including some tobaccos. So add idiot to my lunatic reputation, I have 500 g of rescued zag and you do not. However, it may take me another 15 years to smoke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCShisha Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 [quote name='Skimo']I've heard a good number of people getting a buzz of washed shisha, is that just because they arn't use to it? I always found that weird.[/quote] That's called oxygen deprivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGuy Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 See, my thing is that there MUSt be a good flavor... but I want a buzz to accompany it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skimo Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I havnt found that yet, maybe Al Waha but the flavor wasnt strong, but it was still good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcoyote Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 Well if anyone out there in the forum land has the nads to actually try this, just pm me for a free sample. Only obligation is to post your experience. I'll send a 10g sample to the first 5 people in the USA who ask for it. I'd suggest you get a few friends together, as you won't want to finish the bowl yourself. Live a little. Run with scissors and ride without a helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skimo Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I would but I have like 200 grams of Nakhla Zag and it kicks my ass pretty bad lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubby Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 w00t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcoyote Posted October 10, 2006 Author Share Posted October 10, 2006 BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 i almost pmed you but that stuff scares me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calcartman Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 [quote name='azcoyote']Well if anyone out there in the forum land has the nads to actually try this, just pm me for a free sample. Only obligation is to post your experience. I'll send a 10g sample to the first 5 people in the USA who ask for it. I'd suggest you get a few friends together, as you won't want to finish the bowl yourself. Live a little. Run with scissors and ride without a helmet. [/quote] PMD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 pmed. hope its good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skimo Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Good luck to you all lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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