DrShisha Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Hello there guys, i ordered a Mya QT off andrew ishak, shippped to uk, everything got here fine, a couple of bits were faulty, so he is gonna send replacements, but he said hes not gonna give a discount or a freebie or you know something like that as a result of the inconvenience, he said that hes no longer part of the forum thats why? is this true? so he didnt bother giving discount etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Well obviously he's not obligated to give anyone freebies, but typically when a retailer messes up your order, they like to make things right, which normally entails getting a freebie here or there. Doesn't have to be anything big and glorious, but just to show that they want to keep your business. This has nothing to do with being a part of this forum. It's just common courtesy/practace. So if he wants to put his own business in the line of fire just because he is pissy that we won't let him back in, who is he hurting, us? Fuck no... Edit: Just for clarification, is he making you pay anything extra to have the faulty parts shipped back to him? Or is he charging you more to have the new pieces shipped a second time to you? You'd think a smart person would atleast take a quick glance at the item he is shipping to see if it is in working order. Especially if its going overseas... Cause you know that if something goes sour, it will be a bitch to have to re-ship stuff... Of course, I did say a 'smart' person :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 One would think he'd make sure everything worked. Plenty of other places to get a QT.... AH...oh..wait..i'll tell you all ofter the fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lantern Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 anyone noticing how genuine hookah messes people's orders up all the time? whether its shipping the wrong kind of shisha or shipping faulty parts? it just seems to me that the accuracy of his order needs some work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrShisha Posted October 29, 2006 Author Share Posted October 29, 2006 weeel hes gonna send them for free, he didnt charge for me then, oh weeel i suppose but he was giving 3 nakhla boxes of your choice, box of 3 kings coal with it and his price was similar to all the other sites. Nvm! shitt happens lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrShisha Posted October 29, 2006 Author Share Posted October 29, 2006 This is what he said to me in email: well im not part of that board, so i treat you like a regular customer. hookahforum members dont receive freebies or special deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Abides Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Yes, I wouldn't expect him to offer a Hookah Forum discount seeing how he was banned from Hookah Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speel Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 I don't know why people have a bias against this guy. He's a really cool person and you know shit happened. But what he shoulda done was check the product before shipping but hey hes just trying to run a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 [quote name='speel']I don't know why people have a bias against this guy. He's a really cool person and you know shit happened. But what he shoulda done was check the product before shipping but hey hes just trying to run a business.[/quote] Well of course you are allowed to like him, just like we are allowed to hate his guts. As an admin, I won't do anything to keep his company name off of the board, so please feel free to write all the rave reviews about him you want. We as admins just feel when someone has broken the rules as many times as he has, why should he get special treatment and be allowed to continue to post? If you break any rules, we'll give you a warning, a temp ban, and then a full ban. Same goes for Vendors. No special treatment. [quote name='DrShisha']This is what he said to me in email: well im not part of that board, so i treat you like a regular customer. hookahforum members dont receive freebies or special deals[/quote] So I'm guessing he has no clue you are a member of the forum? Because it sounds like he doesn't want to give us members a discount, or any compensation for his lack of service. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrShisha Posted October 29, 2006 Author Share Posted October 29, 2006 nah he knew yash, i just asked him nicely that please can i have a valve to make my qt into a two hose just for like all this inconvenience, he refused lol, so i just had to accept the replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Hmm. In my humble opinion i shall scratch this retailer from my U.S. possibles. It's not the fact things go wrong - that can happen to anyone, and it's conceivable that the parts that went wrong may have happened due to bad shipping & handling? But the pissy attitude? Not confidence inspiring. JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicideguy Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 He's always been cool to me. I got the forum discount off him. I just put in the discount code on my order... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuoGotOwn3d Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 would be good to fix your order. I ordered from somewhere and I was missing a few things from the packaged deal and this place was nice enough to correct it and send me what I was missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonsmettle Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 [quote name='DrShisha']This is what he said to me in email: well im not part of that board, so i treat you like a regular customer. hookahforum members dont receive freebies or special deals[/quote] being a business man i wouldnt expect him to say this, most people want all customers to feel "special" and shouldnt mention, hey man im not giving you anything special. at least just not mention it say "im sorry the forum discount has expired, can i still help you?" *edit* just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erica Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 [quote name='speel']I don't know why people have a bias against this guy. He's a really cool person and you know shit happened. But what he shoulda done was check the product before shipping but hey hes just trying to run a business.[/quote] Well, messing up peoples orders all the time is not very good business? I dunno.. just my opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 [quote name='speel']I don't know why people have a bias against this guy. He's a really cool person and you know shit happened. But what he shoulda done was check the product before shipping but hey hes just trying to run a business.[/quote] agreed, hes a decent guy. I dont see any reason to bann him from the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersianPride Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Wait why was he banned? I certainly didn't notice anything. This is becoming a little worrisome what with the anti-supplier mentality that we are adopting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioannisds Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 [quote name='PersianPride']Wait why was he banned? I certainly didn't notice anything. This is becoming a little worrisome what with the anti-supplier mentality that we are adopting.[/quote] GH's history here goes WAY back, and even includes not sending one of us their order, and then double or triple charging them or something to that effect. I can't remember exactly. It involved the buyer having to contact his credit card company, Yahoo's business division, etc. I think above all, the mods (and I'm sure most of us) would like some honesty from vendors posting on the boards. When someone comes along and says, in their first post, "guys, I just tried this great new retailer called 'X' you should all give him a try", I don't think any of us can help but be cautious. When the same poster does the same thing in 10 different threads, it becomes obvious that they are somehow affiliated with 'X', and are abusing the forum for their benefit: free advertising. This is just one possible scenario. I'm sure if we didn't have so much of this type of garbage going on lately, the mods would be a lot more tolerant towards what vendors do or do not post. It just seems that for a while it has been nothing but crap like I have described above. And as far as GH, for those of you singing his praise, I really feel you are dealing with a wolf in sheep's clothing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrShisha Posted October 29, 2006 Author Share Posted October 29, 2006 How did GH end up charging double or triple? jus took the money from the card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioannisds Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 [quote name='DrShisha']How did GH end up charging double or triple? jus took the money from the card?[/quote] I can't remember exactly, and the search does not go that far back, but yeah, something like what you said. I'm sure if mushrat reads this he will remember, as he was around at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Ya, among other things. I had to go to paypay to get my money back for soemthing he never sent. As for the "nice guy" go to ebay and search "hookah molasses" this nice guy is repackaging Nakhala in plastic bags apparently and claiming it is "tobacco free", THAT IS NOT A NICE GUY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 [quote name='DrShisha']How did GH end up charging double or triple? jus took the money from the card?[/quote] That's not a hard thing todo to be honest DrShisha... But more modern systems keep the vendor completely out of the payment loop anyways! IE: When I order from hookahshop the payment part of the order process takes me to nochex and i pay nochex who confirm the payment to the vendor. However if you pay the vendor direct then he/she/it can easily make multiple applications for payment. JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 i think the main reason he got banned was that he habitually broke vendor rules. he would illegally post ads for his site. get rebuked. appologize. and do it again, and again, and eventually the mods (and the rest of us) got sick of his dishonesty and lack of respect for the rules and banned him. not saying hes a bad man or his business is bad, but if you cant even obey the rules on a forum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 hmm..appears all 200+ of his repackaged Nakhla ebay auctions, claiming they had no tobacco in them, have suddenly been removed from Ebay. Hmm...wonder if its..naw..can't be, he doent have my address... 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabanapatio Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 oh snap...I just ordered a hookah from this guy the other day! Dang...i hope it comes in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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