Prejudice at IHOP

[SanguineSolitude]

hey farva whats that place you like, you know with all the goofy shit on the walls?

[imonlyapuppet]

I'd say that was a pretty bad idea on your part, OP:

1) Red hot charcoal that could easily be knocked over
2) Clouds of thick smoke are a lot different than that of a couple cigarettes (regardless of which you think smells better
3) Cigars in a restaurant is probably the most offensive idea I've ever heard, that is an incredibly strong smell that lingers.

oh and

4) looks like a bong

[Macho555]

Yeeeeah...I'll have to just say it...I'm not sure why you thought they would let you to begin with. While its common knowlege to all of us on here that they are more or less harmless in terms of odor, their very appearance gives alot of disconcertment to any restaurant manager. I adore my hookah, but this one should have been obvious my friend.

[Dragonsmettle]

since we are talking about ignorance of the human race, if i took my hookah to a park and smoked you think the cops will confiscate my hookah?

[DarthHookah]

1) wasnt my idea. i just went along to diffuse any situation that may have arisen. my friend isnt as knowledgable as i.
2)i didnt count on them letting us smoke.
3) our first waitress was a hottie.

[HAHkoo]

[quote name='Dragonsmettle']since we are talking about ignorance of the human race, if i took my hookah to a park and smoked you think the cops will confiscate my hookah?[/quote]

i wouldn't think so. beause i think hookah is a type of tobacco instrument loophole. And i've tried it a cop came to scout us out and just told us that if we disturb anybody we're gonna have to pack up and leave other than that he told us where a great hookah lounge was... haha

[OPR234]

[quote name='Dragonsmettle']since we are talking about ignorance of the human race, if i took my hookah to a park and smoked you think the cops will confiscate my hookah?[/quote]

They actually cant because its not illegal, and there [i]shouldnt[/i] be any residue of illegal substances in it.

But I have to say I think its hilarious that you lit up your hookah at ihop. I dont think people would have a problem with it if you used a smaller hookah, so that its more discreet (I have no idea how to spell that word). I mean, if someone sees you smoking from a big ass hookah you know theyre gonna think its weird, but if you have a small one, people across the room wont be able to see it, and anyone nearby would know that its just tobacco if you needed to explain yourself.

People dont put cigarettes in fancy pipes that call attention to them, so you shouldnt do the same thing when you smoke hookah in a 'family restaurant'.

[critterchops]

first of all I want to thank you for not being a pussy.All these other forum members that say " you should have known" are all scared gerbil lovers. The situation is NOT LOST!! When things like this come up you tell them "my dad is a lawyer I have just as much a right to be here anyone else I'm not taking down my hookah unless your kicking me out.My dad said if they kick you out for it we'll take'em to court.So let me know are you kicking me out" If you say it with conviction....they will back down!!! If they had a sign saying no pipe tobacco your screwed!!

here is what you can do now go back to that mean waitress and tell her very,very,very kindly Go fuck yourself!!You mean dirty rotton flea bag whore you ruined my breakfast. They need to rename this place ITWAT instead of ihop because of you. And have a pre written letter to the nice waitress saying sorry for what happened I would like to know if you would like to smoke with us sometime and leave your number.

P.S. If I was there I would have used the force.......

[OPR234]

[quote name='critterchops']first of all I want to thank you for not being a pussy.All these other forum members that say " you should have known" are all scared gerbil lovers. The situation is NOT LOST!! When things like this come up you [b]tell them "my dad is a lawyer[/b] I have just as much a right to be here anyone else I'm not taking down my hookah unless your kicking me out.My dad said if they kick you out for it we'll take'em to court.So let me know are you kicking me out" [b]If you say it with conviction....they will back down!!![/b] If they had a sign saying no pipe tobacco your screwed!!

here is what you can do now go back to that mean waitress and tell her very,very,very kindly Go fuck yourself!!You mean dirty rotton flea bag whore you ruined my breakfast. They need to rename this place ITWAT instead of ihop because of you. And have a pre written letter to the nice waitress saying sorry for what happened I would like to know if you would like to smoke with us sometime and leave your number.  

P.S. If I was there I would have used the force.......[/quote]

It isnt that simple... When people have an opinion on something, its not uncommon of them to be offended if you disagree in a disrespectful manner. If you actually said that to someone in that situation, they would think you're an incredibly arrogant punk who has all their problems solved by their daddy. They wouldnt back down no matter how you say it.

Now, if you were dressed nicely and came in with a briefcase or something and claimed you yourself were a lawyer, and gave them a business card, they might back down a little bit, at most.

[quote]All these other forum members that say " you should have known" are all scared gerbil lovers.[/quote]

Thanks for being a complete jackass, we really appreciate it! Smoking a hookah at Ihop is like a grown ass man playing on a playground. Technically you're allowed to do it, but come on man, if parents think you're creepy then you should have the respect to walk away.

[Scheetz]

I have a question: well honestly who the fuck takes a hookah to IHOP or any food place for that matter? (sarcasm is used in that question)

but honestly, what crossed your mind when you guys were like lets go to ihop and smoke the hookah while we eat? I mean honestly, I love my hookah but if I am a manager I would have asked you take it down also. Its just not appealing to other customers.

The manager is not being disrespectful or anything, just the smoking section is made for cigs, not pulling out a qt or your 30in. hookah to smoke for 2 hours.

But, thumbs up for being that guy who does it.

I am not being an asshole, I just think its funny that someone would actually use a hookah in a restaurant.

[PersianPride]

Just curious how did you actually get the charcoal going? Did you walk in with a lit coal or did you like an instant lite right in the restaurant.

[MilqueToast]

[quote name='SanguineSolitude']hey farva whats that place you like, you know with all the goofy shit on the walls?[/quote]

You mean Shenanigan's?

Actually, not to burst anyone's bubble, but IHOP and other restaurants/ bars don't allow pipes or cigars because they are not zoned to do so. They can get major fines if someone rats them out to the fire marshall, so they try to prevent people from smoking anything other than cigarettes in their establishments. Working in a hookah lounge, customers tampering with the hookahs or bringing their own into my work is a huge liability because you (objective you) don't know what it is exactly that they are smoking. Maybe the restaurant did act like a d-bag in the manner in which they told you to put the hookah away. I wasn't there; I don't know. I do know that they had legitimate concerns regardless of how innocent your intentions were.

It would be awesome if IHOP sanctioned hookah-ing though. Very awesome indeed.

[DarthHookah]

really, we werent out to make a change in society. we just wanted to have some fun. i mean, the manager was telling us to take it down, and the whole time im taking a big hit. it was good for a huge laugh with everyone, since i fucking hate IHOP anyway.

we used quicklight coals, for those concerned. and when we were done, we threw them in a glass of water. to be brutally honest, we probably set the hookah anti-defamation movement back about 5 years. sorry guys, but it was fun. actually, it was real nice, also.

[Sonthert]

I think the manager summed it up...cigarettes only. On airplanes, when they allowed smoking, they had little signs that said "No Smoking"...smoking meaning cigarettes. It is common practice for people that allow smoking in establishments to only allow cigarette smoking. There are a good number of hookah lounges that don't allow cigarette smoking. Other than that, cigarette smoking is the most accepted form of smoking, socially. If you want to get away with that kind of thing, its best to ask the mamger first...if he has questions, he can then ask you...otherwise, he'll just be a dick if the other customers start complaining.

[hookah hippie]

I live in CA where smoking is not allowed in business establishments. But there is this sort of outside cafe where you could sit and smoke hookah, cigars, pipes, ciggerettes what ever your preference.
I used to be the only one there with a hookah but after a while a bunch of annoying drunk high school kids brought a hookah and started a fire. Thus ending the smoking of hookah Those Bastards

[pboyle]

IHOP just doesn't seem like the right kind of place to smoke in general.
I don't understand how someone could mix pancakes and cigarettes let alone try and smoke hookah right there on the table.

I wouldn't know about smoking in restaurants though. Its illegal in NJ.
:-p

[Scalliwag]

I wouldn't enjoy smoking in an IHOP even if they did let me. That place is for when you are still a little iffy on the drinking side and you need a little more time to play it safe. Most of them I have been to are kinda nasty and not the cleanest of places.
If a manager or whomever does not want something going on that I was doing I would pack it up and leave anyways. Especially if they were cooking my food and serving my drinks. No telling what kinda shit they may put in that ya know?

[pavlakos]

dude, your lucky u guys even have smoking sections.no such thing in nyc. cant even smoke a cigarette in a bar. but i understand your pain since there IS a smoking section at the IHOP there and no sign to specify wut u can smoke and what u cant.

[azncow]

okay sooo one sunday moring... i went to work.. we had a store meeting... soo i went to work at like 8 and finsh the meetin around 10... i still got sometime b4 i gata go back to work... so i just desided to whip out my QT outside next to starbux... and start smokeing it... couple hours went by.. i had at least 10 ppl looked at me like wtf was i doing... 10 ppl asked wtf is it... 2 ppl asked me if they can smoke with me.... soo i mean.... pretty cool tho hahahha~

[King Mo]

Funny story,

I went with a friend of mine to the beach. Believe it or not, some places in the UK have beaches!!!

It's a place called Margate, where it is filled with white families where the culture is fish and chips and is far from London City cosmopolitan life. My friend and I stuck out being of Middle Eastern and Indian backgrounds respectively.

Anyway, we wanted to recreate an 'un-London' experience by smoking a Shisha on the beach.

We set up the shisha and are smoking away on grape fakher, when one of the 'local' women walk past us and say 'You guys should be ashamed of yourselves, there's kids around'.

Naturally, I imagine being drunk or taking their kids to the pub is acceptable, yet smoking a shisha isn't. She perhaps thought it was a bong or something, when it is quite rare to see these things in the UK (seeing a Shisha is a hundred times more common)

I turn to my mate and say "what do you think, shall we put this away or chill". He was like "we gotta be careful of these locals, they'll probably call the police". I was like "we'll cross that bridge if we get there"

Well, naturally, 5 minutes later we hear sirens and I'm like"no, that can't be for us", prior to being approached by 2 uniformed Policemen 30 seconds later. (I wish the police in London had such a fast response time)

So we are chilling on the beach, being interrogated by 2 policemen before showing them the tobacco (one of them gave an inquisitive sniff followed by 'yea that's grape' ) and having explained to him what a shisha is, and how the molasses are used inside it, the other guy says "I think I've seen these things on TV before, they smoke them in the streets don't they".

Now, they leave taking a few details, and we get back to business, when one of the lifeguards comes and joins us, telling us he was watching the whole episode with great amusement, as he happened to be half Morroccan. We then continued our chilling session with an extra guest and by that time the bowl was finished and we dismantled the shisha and headed back.



I don't particularly know what ihop is, but generally speaking, Shishas are banned in a number of places. For example, you cannot have a shisha on the beach in some of the touristy areas of Egypt (of all places). If someone was to burn their clothes, or sustain any injury, I hate to think the legal cases that could ensue against the establishment. Especially for you guys where taking legal action can be very favourable indeed.

[jonny_lech]

[quote name='King Mo']I don't particularly know what ihop is, but generally speaking, Shishas are banned in a number of places.[/quote]

IHOP stands for International House of Pancakes. It's a decidedly American institution. It's a non-fancy, fairly affordable resturaunt that serves some general fare, but mostly breakfast items (like French toast and of course pancakes).

USUALLY they are open 24/7 and thus since hip people (read: young and young at heart) are awake late at night they get hungry, etc. It's often a gathering place in the wee hours on the weekend. I know that I've gone there at all sorts of odd hours, many, many times.

[worr lord]

I really, truely hate IHOP food

[DizzyGuy]

I much prefer Waffle House.

[SanguineSolitude]

i wouldnt call it prejudice really. as they said they dont allow cigars or tobacco pipes so why would they allow shishas. in addition a 2 foot bong looking contraption sitting on the table in an ihop is a bit ridiculous.

kimg mo's story of "you should be ashamed of yourselves... there are children" is funny. Several of my friends and i occasionally set up a hookah outside of a local coffee shop. you get an interesting mix of responses. Ive noticed the most common one is a smile and shake of the head from older folks. but occasionally some of the hardcore minnesotan moms will pull their kids away from us as they walk by and just glare. I always just smile back. Othertime people will walk up and ask if they can smoke with you. anymore the reactions have disappeared since a mediterannean cafe opened up next to the coffeeshop and they serve hookahs outside.

[jonny_lech]

[quote name='DizzyGuy']I much prefer Waffle House.[/quote]

More like ROFL House! Waffle House tends to be dingier in my experience. Shady characters and all. But you'd probably be more likely to get away with having a hookah in Waffle House.

I don't know of any Waffle Houses in my immediate area, actually...