pimpnmagnum Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Does anyone know if it's harmful to use Kingman BBQ charcoals with my hookah? There is a carbon monoxide warning on the bag but i guess that's pretty typical of all charcoals. I just want to make sure that im not going to kill myself because I was too cheap to buy hookah charcoals. Any help is greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 NOOOOOOOOOO. definately not. the carbon monoxide might well kill you actually. hookah charcoal is made with much less sulfure and safe binding agents. kingsford will not work. you could buy natural bulk charcoal, as in real wood charcoal not briquettes, that would work though the flavor would be terrible. do not use any bbq briquettes. seriously this isnt a joking matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shavo989 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Exactly what Sanguine said DON'T USE BBQ BRIQUETTES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpnmagnum Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 Ok thanx, the first time i smoked using the Kingman's I got a pretty bad headache for about a half hour and I figured I should probably cool it. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.cOLt.45. Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Exactly what they said..never use any type of bbq charcoal..use Hookah charcoal and hookah charcoal alone...we wouldnt want to lose a HF member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 yeah bad idea. the headache luckily prevents most people from seriously hurting themselves. the problem with such high levels of carbon monoxide is that the molecules actually stick in the red blood cells oxygen "containers" if you will. so the carbon monoxide fills up the places that oxygen takes. the problem is that once its in that place the body cant get it out. so the longer you smoke the less oxygen you are even able to breathe since your red blood cells will eventually become saturated with carbon monoxide. thats when you die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 taken from wikipedia Early symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning include drowsiness and headache, followed by unconsciousness, respiratory failure, and death. First aid for a victim of carbon monoxide poisoning requires access to fresh air; administration of artificial respiration and, if available, oxygen; and, as soon as possible, medical attention. When carbon monoxide is inhaled, it takes the place of oxygen in haemoglobin, the red blood pigment that normally carries oxygen to all parts of the body. Because carbon monoxide binds to haemoglobin several hundred times more strongly than oxygen, its effects are cumulative and long-lasting, causing oxygen starvation throughout the body. Prolonged exposure to fresh air (or pure oxygen) is required for the CO-tainted hemoglobin (carboxyhaemoglobin) to clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shavo989 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 No, it wasn't just a coincidence. The CO in BBQ briquettes is in lethal amounts. When my friend first saw that coal (albeit I used 3 Kings QLs) was used ti smoke a hookah with she told me horror stories about entire families that died from trying to grill inside. She wasn't aware of the difference between BBQ charcoals and the charcoals used for hookahs at the time. If you don't want to spring for hookah coals you could use natural chunk charcoal, which is made for barbecuing, but only the natural ones. The briquettes have all kinds of nasty (and deadly) stuff in them you don't want to be breathing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpnmagnum Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 I guess I should stop being such a cheap ass and go for some quality hookah coals. I just figured it would be ok to use the kingmans because when you bbq theres like 20+ coals and no ill effects...but I certainly don't want to risk CO poisoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ztephen Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 I was stupid enough to do this I got a mad headache and felt like crap, just don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaRose Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 But when your bbq'ing your not directly inhaling the smoke and its outside well venelated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shavo989 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 QUOTE (CaliforniaRose)But when your bbq'ing your not directly inhaling the smoke and its outside well venelated. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 QUOTE (SanguineSolitude)hookah charcoal is made with much less sulfure and safe binding agents. Who told you that? That is very, very false. Many charcoals for hookah contain just as much sulfur as unprocessed charcoal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 hmm. i thought i heard that at some point on the forum. ill trust your expert opinon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 use lump. not briquette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 The real problem with the Kingsford coals is the substances they use to make them more fast lighting. The sulfur really isn't the problem...sulfur is the same on Kingsford vs. Nour fingers, or whatever hookah charcoal you can name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobes Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 what a dumbass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Referring to whom? I know of commercial lounges that use Kingsford or the equivalent of them. Its not that bad a question, its a good question because it might be one of the most dangerous situations a hookah smoker could put themselves in in the short-term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobes Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 the person who posted the topic, becuase he used coals for grilling then asked the question on this forum, if ya read a carbon monoixde warning label mabye you shouldnt use those coals to smoke with, coals arnt dangerous to people who smoke its using them then asking the question, "whether or not they are fatal", haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 DONT DO IT MAN its bad enough youve already done it ! its dangerous, stick to charcoals made for hookahs or just natural coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpnmagnum Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 QUOTE (Tobes)the person who posted the topic, becuase he used coals for grilling then asked the question on this forum, if ya read a carbon monoixde warning label mabye you shouldnt use those coals to smoke with, coals arnt dangerous to people who smoke its using them then asking the question, "whether or not they are fatal", haha. Designated hookah coals have CO too, its not like only Kingman coals produce carbon monoxide. The warning is mainly to prevent people from bbqing in a confined place. Small amounts of CO arent fatal. Lots of everyday items produce carbon monoxide such as cigarettes and car exhausts. Don't be an asshole and post comments that have no merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheetz Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 [size=24]Headache-> Pass out-> Death now have fun children. Like I have said in every thread about this. We need to make a damn sticky about not using BBQ coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpnmagnum Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 I hope your not implying that if you get a headache your going to die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobes Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 TOPIC CLOSED: DONT USE Kingman BBQ charcoals WHEN SMOKING HOOKAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 its so scary though cause it comes back up once in a while and this guy actually used them! there should be some sort of notice for this, scheetz is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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