New Hookah Issues

[Jortle]

Hi all,

I just received my hookah from HookahCompany yesterday. I smoked two bowls using the included bowl, and a bowl through a funnel. I got the most ridiculous headache ever.

Does anyone know what causes this? I've heard it could be CO poisoning, nicotine poisoning, or heavy metal poisoning. I seriously doubt it was nicotine related since I regularly smoke cigarettes. Mostly, I'm wondering if anyone knows if it could really be heavy metal poisoning from the foil? This is what Smiley claims in his glass screen ads. Anyone notice a decrease in headaches with glass screen as claimed? I'm not too concerned with CO poisoning, but heavy metals freak me out.

Also, I got some natural coals and a ton of old 3 kings from a friend. I had trouble lighting both. Usually, 3 kings and other instant lights light quickly and sparks dance across the surface. But yesterday, the 3 kings wouldn't spark properly. Anyone have this experience with 3 kings? Old coals maybe?

Does anyone know how long it takes to light natural coals? I have a blowtorch I tried using, but the coals kept going out or only staying lit in the corner, leading to bad heat.

[skiracerj1]

The heavy metal thing from foil is flase, the foil doesnt get hot enough to vaporize, as sonthert (sp) has said before something turns to gas it has to melt and you dont see any melted foil do you? Studies has been done and there metals in the smoke, but not aluminum, and nothing in large dosages. The headache probably came from just smoking too fast, it has happened to all of us. It comes from a lack of oxygen not the heavy metals, heavy metal poisoning would take much longer before onset of symptoms would occur. Do a search on the numerous aluminum foil discussions

[yashman19]

Jortle: keep in mind what you said: in an AD for a glass screen, it talks about the dangers of foil. This means you have to consider the source and the motivation. Not saying its wrong, just saying there may be a bias.

(The above has been modified by an Admin. to conform to the Code of Conduct. What follows is the original post by Yashman.)

Trust me, it's not your foil.

I'd say you'll want to look into your coals for the problem. What type of natural coals are you speaking of? As for the 3Kings, perhaps you got a bad batch? As long as the coals aren't some obscure brand that no ones ever heard of, I'm pretty sure your coals are ok as well. Did you taste any nasty coal flavor while smoking?

Maybe you should try to smoke in a well ventillated area? Also, did you smoke your three bowls back to back? Because when I smoke longer than an hour or so, I will usually start to get my headache. I just keep my sessions to an hour long and I'm fine.

[EvansLight]

also, lil side note, make sure to clean out the hookah good before actually smoking it the first time XD

[[LB]]

The heavy metal thing from foil is flase, the foil doesnt get hot enough to vaporize, as sonthert (sp) has said before something turns to gas it has to melt and you dont see any melted foil do you? Studies has been done and there metals in the smoke, but not aluminum, and nothing in large dosages.

the reason is because the coals are simply not hot enough to cause decomposition of the aluminum foil, it would have to be muuuuuch muuch hotter so its not the foil . What coals and tobacco are you using? this is probably the reason you got a wicked headache

[bradfordr]

Couple of things I may be able to add from my experiences.

When your quicklights are in the process of lighting, it's usually good to hold them in the tongs or put them anywhere away from your bowl. I find I get huge headaches when I let my quicklights light themselves on the actual foil.

Also, when quicklights have been exposed to humidity, it makes them hard to light. I have left my quicklights many a time outside for a couple of days and it makes them hard to light. The best thing to do in this situation is to put them on the stove for a little while, and they usually catch on pretty quickly.

[[LB]]

Couple of things I may be able to add from my experiences.

When your quicklights are in the process of lighting, it's usually good to hold them in the tongs or put them anywhere away from your bowl. I find I get huge headaches when I let my quicklights light themselves on the actual foil.

Also, when quicklights have been exposed to humidity, it makes them hard to light. I have left my quicklights many a time outside for a couple of days and it makes them hard to light. The best thing to do in this situation is to put them on the stove for a little while, and they usually catch on pretty quickly.

this is true because theres a chemical that burns off to get the coal going initially and you most certainly dont want to smoke that stuff, make sure they are no longer fizzling and are glowing red hot throughout the charcoal, no black large black spots should be left.

[art_official]

i agree with brad
i normally light my coals right on the tinfoil, but this (this meaning last night) was the first time with a phunnel bowl. i lit it on the foil and i started to get a headache from trying to get it milked. so i took the coal off, waited for that thin snow blanket to be present, then returned it and it was a good smoke.

as for your coals most likley a bad batch ive had that happen with those mini jcoals

[lilotaku]

Just make sure your coals have a coating of ash on them and no black spots. A lot of new people to hookah i know light the coals and try to get them going while on the bowl. This usually is the cause for massive headaches that come on quick.

[smiley]

Hello I would like to speak for myself. Yash. First you don't know what I went through to get some ansewers. I went directly to the UofA Chemical Research center. I had some grad students along with a Prof. Do a Test on what is going in my lungs.I asked what happens to foil when Glowing Charcoal was placed on the Foil. I was told that there where alot of crap going in my lungs. That they suggested that I stop what I was doing. I was Smokeing Heavy Metals.Second I DO NOT tell people things to get them to buy my Screen. I know what I found out about foil.that is all that matters to me. I just know what I invested time in. Smiley

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[hookah hippie]

perhaps if your getting heavy metal poisining you should consider a change in music give yourself a chance to recover

[mushrat]

Now that this has been cleaned up and the admins have talked. I must put in my 2 cents as well.
I'm not sure where the glass screen ad you speak of is..but Smiley, If you are mentioning the possibility of heavy metal poisoning IN the ad, you are using it sell your screens. Other wise you'd just sell the screens

So of course you are using the fear of metal poisoning as a scare tactic sales method, to insist otherwise is plain old insulting to me and everyone else. So, while it was not perhaps SAID in the best way, the sentiment is still valid. You have your favorable research, there is other research that can prove the opposite that can be considered just as valid. So do try to save the indignation for perhaps a more worthy issue.

[smiley]

Again I'am not useing scare tactic s to sell nothing. I Pm you mush explained everything. But that does not seem to be enough. What people do is up to you. I just speak of what I know.
Smiley 8)