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so, i was thinking on the topic of bases.

most smokers leave the stem go into the water about an inch. As I understand it, the more contact the smoke has with the water, the more filtration and the more cooling the smoke has, right?

This lead me to my question.. why don't hookah manufactuers make the stems longer, rather than make a bigger base to accomodate for the smoke chamber part of the base? I think that my stem could be 2 to 3 inches longer for better filtration while still giving the base enough air space for big hits...


Thoughts?
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To my knowledge, the further the stem is in the water, the harder the draw. What you're saying makes sense, but I think it'd be a much better idea for manufacturers to build diffusers into their stems to improve filtration AND the draw.
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QUOTE (cymptom @ Dec 27 2006, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To my knowledge, the further the stem is in the water, the harder the draw. What you're saying makes sense, but I think it'd be a much better idea for manufacturers to build diffusers into their stems to improve filtration AND the draw.


that would be awesome... i was thinking about drilling little holes into the bottom part of the stem to assist with the draw, and put the stem lower into water... perhaps the holes would compensate for the added weight of the water, allowing for the best of both worlds.
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i think my idea that i was too lazy to ever get around to doing would rock. Why holes or slits? How bout a bit of cheese cloth or something along those lines over the bottom? Think about it, it would give you the smallest holes for the smoke to come out you could get.

Granted regular cheese cloth might be too tight, but these lil pyramid tea bags that some green tea came in, are wrapped in this material that has bigger holes than cheese cloth, just too lazy to get around to doing anything with it tongue.gif
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I use a sink aerator on the end of my stem as a diffuser.
It fit almost perfectly, but i added some electrical tape on the end of the stem to make it a snug fit.
It works well but since i have a junior hookah it makes the stem a little longer then i would like.
This is what i'm talking about if your not sure what i mean

sorry cant get the link right.

http://www.cetsolar.com/images/AERATORLRG.jpg Edited by toocoldimtold
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QUOTE (toocoldimtold @ Dec 30 2006, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I use a sink aerator on the end of my stem as a diffuser.
It fit almost perfectly, but i added some electrical tape on the end of the stem to make it a snug fit.
It works well but since i have a junior hookah it makes the stem a little longer then i would like.
This is what i'm talking about if your not sure what i mean


your link isnt working. do you have any other pics?
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I have contemplated this idea up and down for awhile. The problem is that the flavor and the nicotine are in the same boat...if you remove one, you remove the other...this can be accomplished by changing thew solubility capacity of the water, namely using hot water. Add carefully! It might shatter your jar. If you want more material to dissolve, then hot water will do that. Not boiling hot, but hot tap water.
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QUOTE (Sonthert @ Dec 31 2006, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have contemplated this idea up and down for awhile. The problem is that the flavor and the nicotine are in the same boat...if you remove one, you remove the other...this can be accomplished by changing thew solubility capacity of the water, namely using hot water. Add carefully! It might shatter your jar. If you want more material to dissolve, then hot water will do that. Not boiling hot, but hot tap water.



Sonth have you ever smoked with a vase filled with hot water?? I am tempted to try this in a few when I pack my bowl.
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Hot water? That goes against almost everything I have been thought about hookah smoking. But, if it meets your guys approval, then I am down for it. I see hookah-shisha has a diffuser mod, I am tempted to pick that up as well.
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QUOTE (Zerodynamic @ Jan 1 2007, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hookaheveryday @ Jan 1 2007, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Put Zima or Smirnoff chick beer in the bese. it tastes amazing!


Zima? My friends are going to laugh their asses off if they see that in my fridge. But, I'll try the smirnoff sometime soon.


the smoke is much whiter and thicker than when i use water and it gives it that alcoholic kick and flavor
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QUOTE (hookaheveryday @ Jan 1 2007, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Zerodynamic @ Jan 1 2007, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hookaheveryday @ Jan 1 2007, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Put Zima or Smirnoff chick beer in the bese. it tastes amazing!


Zima? My friends are going to laugh their asses off if they see that in my fridge. But, I'll try the smirnoff sometime soon.


the smoke is much whiter and thicker than when i use water and it gives it that alcoholic kick and flavor


i think i will give it a shot tomorrow night. I'll run to the liquor store and see what flavors I can find.

Any one ever try any hard stuff in the bases?
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QUOTE (sicklecow @ Jan 1 2007, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zero, you'll have to give us a full report on the Zima/chick beer. Good luck!


will do.. I didn't have gf around tonight (im 20, shes 21) so I couldn't get any.. but tomorrow will be another story. I'll keep you guys posted.
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Yeah, hot water does work well. Thats why buzzes and flavors are stronger during the winter...because the ambient temperature is lower, so the stablized ambient temperature of the water is lower so more nicotine and flavor come through. I screwed around with combatting humidity shock by altering the temperature of the water, but its too inexact.
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