Life Or Death Question

[rattler]

OK I'm going to ask a stupid question, but first some background.  I love mangos...but I'm very allergic to them.  Eating the fruit, drinking the juice, or even eating candy that is made with mangos causes my tongue to swell and difficulty breathing.  I can safely drink or eat artificially flavored mango products.  

Is Nakhla Mango a natural or artifical flavoring?  I saw some and bought it(only a 50g box) and then began to think about the dangers before I smoked it.  Am I going to kill myself if I try it?  

[stevehookah]

Normally 'melon' allergies come from the 'hairs' in the flesh. Which are also in the juice. However, since you will be 'steaming' it, I'd think that all you would get is the flavour and NOT the 'hairs/flesh' of the fruit.

This is an OPINION!!!!!!!!!!! If you die, then don't blame me.

IMHO,, take a puff, see how it goes.

Your mileage may vary.

[Zerodynamic]

from other flavors I have tried, there are no chunks of fruit, just tobbaco. Some manufactuers do mix in juice into the glycerin, but other than that, no.

Either way, you wont actually be ingesting it, so I would go ahead.. and have a phone with 911 on speed dial handy.. j/k

[rattler]

Chock this up to one of my worst ideas ever! I am truly thankful that my wife has asthma. I stole her inhaler and took some benadryl. The first puff was enough to make me start feeling tight in the chest, so I gave it up. Nothing terrible happened, but I am pretty sure it would if I continued to smoke it. And it definantly does not seem to be a flavor worth dying over as it tastes horrid to me.

[hookah hippie]

You live and you learn

[cypherkk]

the fumari mango is much more of a mango flavor. I imagine LAYALINA as well which I'm bettin artificiallly flavor every one of thier flavors. I llike thier flavors but they all seem a bit artificial or not natural at the minimum. but like the other poster, don't blame me....

[rattler]

the fumari mango is much more of a mango flavor. I imagine LAYALINA as well which I'm bettin artificiallly flavor every one of thier flavors. I llike thier flavors but they all seem a bit artificial or not natural at the minimum. but like the other poster, don't blame me....

I love Layaline flavors!  But to be honest I would only be willing to try a mango flavor now if I was able to find out for sure that it was artificially flavored and not natural.  I don't know if Tangiers makes one or not, but at least I would be able to find out if there was any natural mango in it

[art_official]

You live and you learn

in his case he couldve died in trying to learn hah


congrats tho your an XTRM HOOKAMAN

[Shavo989]

Normally 'melon' allergies come from the 'hairs' in the flesh.

That's true but a mango isn't a melon. I read somewhere they're related to cashews and pistachios oddly enough. They're also related to poison ivy and sumac which have the irritating chemical compound urushiol in the leaves and stems. Mangoes also have it in the skin which is what causes allergic reactions to mangoes, and urushiol is still potent if it's burned and can in fact be carried by the smoke. So vaporising and inhaling that by way of mango tobacco doesn't sound too good to me. Think if anyone's burned yard brush that had poison ivy in the pile and then got a face full of the smoke, if someone's allergic to mangoes it's the same deal.

If you can find a tobacco with an artificially synthesised mango flavor I'd say that'd be safe to smoke though. Well, as safe as smoking tobacco can be, anyway

[rattler]

not sure I wanted to be so extreme as to have actually taken a chance of dying.

Hmmm...it's the insides of the Mango that I have a reaction to. I didn't know that you could eat the skin. Odd you say they are related to poison ivy and sumac...they made me miserable when I was growing up.

Hopefully I can find a good artificial flavored mango...I never tasted Mango until I was 22 and met my wife, at the flavor is amazing. Probably one of my favorite flavors I have ever tasted. Pisses me off I can't eat them.

[mushrat]

Of all the brands of shisha out there, I'd say Nakhla is the most likely to use REAL fruit in their flavours. Probably why most of us don't like it as much as the artificially flavoured ones. The flavors aren't necessarily as strong of candy like.

Just my .02

[rattler]

Of all the brands of shisha out there, I'd say Nakhla is the most likely to use REAL fruit in their flavours. Probably why most of us don't like it as much as the artificially flavoured ones. The flavors aren't necessarily as strong of candy like.

Just my .02

If you had been around yesterday I don't think I would have tried it!  I like Nakhla just for it's buzz, I smoke the cancer sticks, so I need a little nicotine while I am smoking my hookah.  I have to admit though having a hookah is making me question why the hell I smoke cigs...It does not seem worth the money anymore because they taste awful.

[Evil_Spork]

do you have a reaction to contact with juice/fruit? aka if you rub mango juice on your skin, will you see inflammation/irritation? if so, then its simple to assume just rub some shisha on your skin!

or maybe put your finger in the juices of the tobacco and then rub it on the inside of your cheek and see if you have a reaction. its a small amount so it shouldnt be a very severe reaction.

[rattler]

do you have a reaction to contact with juice/fruit? aka if you rub mango juice on your skin, will you see inflammation/irritation? if so, then its simple to assume just rub some shisha on your skin!

or maybe put your finger in the juices of the tobacco and then rub it on the inside of your cheek and see if you have a reaction. its a small amount so it shouldnt be a very severe reaction.

No I don't have a skin reaction.  I never thought about putting some of the shisha juice in my mouth to test for a allergy to it.  That's a really great idea.

[SanguineSolitude]

ok lets just tell him not to smoke any mango shishas. i mean why risk injury multiple times trying to find a mango shisha that contains no mango whatsoever.

there are lots of other great flavors, dont pick the one that will kill you.

[rattler]

ok lets just tell him not to smoke any mango shishas. i mean why risk injury multiple times trying to find a mango shisha that contains no mango whatsoever.

there are lots of other great flavors, dont pick the one that will kill you.

It's the craziest thing.  The fact that I can't have it only makes me want it more, however the flavor was horrid in Nakhla so I am hoping that mango is really just a horrid flavor!  I think I'll take your advice and leave mango alone.

[Captain Courageous]

Hehe, yeah Rattler... I really don't think that you are missing much. About three years ago or something I was allllll about Nakhla's mango flavor shisha... smoking it was amazing so about 4 months ago I bought another box of it with my order of other Nakhla flavors and out of every single flavor that I ordered it was by far my least favorite this time. I have never had a real mango myself but if I were to guess I would say that it probably doesn't taste anything like a real mango while smoking it and there are far too many better flavors out there *nods nods*

[web250]

Artificial flavoring (generally in the form of esters) is the way to go in your case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esters#Physical_properties Edited January 3, 2007 by web250

[rattler]

Artificial flavoring (generally in the form of esters) is the way to go in your case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esters#Physical_properties

The problem would be figuring out which ones are artificially flavored.

[The Cameron]

Normally 'melon' allergies come from the 'hairs' in the flesh.

That's true but a mango isn't a melon. I read somewhere they're related to cashews and pistachios oddly enough. They're also related to poison ivy and sumac which have the irritating chemical compound urushiol in the leaves and stems. Mangoes also have it in the skin which is what causes allergic reactions to mangoes, and urushiol is still potent if it's burned and can in fact be carried by the smoke. So vaporising and inhaling that by way of mango tobacco doesn't sound too good to me. Think if anyone's burned yard brush that had poison ivy in the pile and then got a face full of the smoke, if someone's allergic to mangoes it's the same deal.

If you can find a tobacco with an artificially synthesised mango flavor I'd say that'd be safe to smoke though. Well, as safe as smoking tobacco can be, anyway

+1 to Matt for doing his homework.

[Zerodynamic]

rattler, you would be better off finding a candy type mango.. one that you know can't be natural.

[rattler]

rattler, you would be better off finding a candy type mango.. one that you know can't be natural.

Is Layalina a candy type? Does anyone know if Tangiers makes a Mango? At least I could PM a question to make sure there was no real mango in it...I guess I'll run by the tangiers website and have a look.

[rattler]

They don't have a mango flavor. Hey Sonthert if you happen to read this have you ever thought of making a mango tangiers? (artificially flavored of course)

[Sonthert]

Yes, I have tried mango...its an unstable flavor, unfortunately.

I have the same problem with Cashews and Pistachios. I have had severe reactions from eating at restaurants, even after I told them about my allergy. Even something as innocent as eating at Chinese buffet and using the cashew chicken spoon in the chow mein pan next to it is enough to give me a light-moderate reaction. That is the person before me did.

Artificial flavors and natural flavors or eating a mango shouldn't pose too much of a difference...there may be one or two specific chemicals that you are highly allergic to and they are present in the fruit and some of the artificial flavorings, but not others. Many people are highly allergic to cherries, but I have never heard of anybody allergic to cherry hookah flavor.

I would avoid the mango flavor, if it affects you the way cashew/pistachio would affect me. If you insist, keep Benadryl close by....8 is usually how many I take for a strong allergic reaction.

[rattler]

I think you and everyone who aid don't bother smoking it has the best advice Sonathert. I always pack around a bottle of benadryl just in case. I think it's probably easier to be allergic to mango than nuts...I've noticed a lot of food products say it was produced on machines that previously processed nuts. You learn to read ingredient lists when you have a food allergy.
More to the point there is too many great flavors that won't try to kill me. Tangiers peach(had my first bowl of tangiers today) is a case in point. I like your honesty that Mango is a unstable flavor as well, instead of attempting to market it anyway. And judging by the flavor nahkla I think your right!