Isoldated Bad Tangiers Shisha Experience?

[Scoop]

I ordered some tangiers blueberry maybe half a year ago off hookahcompany. It came in a wrapped up bag. We packed the bowl as usual, i make the holes on top like an Archimedes' Spiral.

The mix instantly burned, it had no flavor. It was almost impossible to smoke. I threw away the whole bag after three failed tries.

at that time i smoked al-fakher daily, and now a days pretty much all starbuzz/qeman.

I read some reviews and they said tangiers was amazing. Did i have an isolated bad experience or did the company improve that much?

[Hookah_Bob3]

You should have let it acclimate to the ambient humidity (the area in which you intend to smoke it) and you may have been using too much heat

[Scoop]

You should have let it acclimate to the ambient humidity (the area in which you intend to smoke it) and you may have been using too much heat

the first time i smoked it i used 2 diamante coals on it. 2 inches in length id guess. I have a huge egyptian clay bowl. unsmokeable.

prolly a week later the 2nd time, i used same bowl, and 1 diamante coal. you could taste the flavor a little (heavy chemical flavor and very little blueberry taste). this time it barely smoked.

[Scoop]

no one else has anything to say

[Hookah_Bob3]

Let it acclimate for 12 hours.

What bowl are you using? If you're using a phunnel, try poking a square of holes just a bit bigger than a disc and then place a QL disc on there if you have any..that's how I do it..With japs, try breaking the bar into two bars of two squares and placing them over the square, see how that works..then rotate the FOIL around

[Scoop]

ql disc?

i was using the now discountinued egyptian bowl.

[angemonkwj]

i agree with the others. let it acclimate for some time before you smoke it.

[skiracerj1]

Yep acclimation is key, and it seems as though you have a classic case of not enough acclimating, as poor chemical flavor and ultra harsh smokes are the primary symptom, I've had tangiers blueberry and its amazing, tastes just like blueberry pancakes

[Sonthert]

Also, sounds like you put a pinch in a bowl. You need to stir the tobacco and juice together well, lay it in (don't spread it out, don;t mash it down) and fill the bowl up 90-95% of the way. The tobacco hasn't changed at all. Its still the same crap I've been foisting off on people for three years now.

[speel]

I ordered some tangiers blueberry maybe half a year ago off hookahcompany. It came in a wrapped up bag. We packed the bowl as usual, i make the holes on top like an Archimedes' Spiral.

The mix instantly burned, it had no flavor. It was almost impossible to smoke. I threw away the whole bag after three failed tries.

at that time i smoked al-fakher daily, and now a days pretty much all starbuzz/qeman.

I read some reviews and they said tangiers was amazing. Did i have an isolated bad experience or did the company improve that much?

Dude I had the same problem .. i baught the tangiers sample pack a few weeks ago and every flavor i tried burnt up .. and i acclimated, used 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 1/2 inch natural coals one at a time

also when it arrived in the mail it smelled like cooked beef jerky lol Edited January 10, 2007 by speel

[PK]

My only Tangiers experience (1 250g bag of watermelon) wasn't so great either. I let it acclimate for 12+ hours, stirred it up well and got it smoking without problems. The problem was that it just didn't taste all that good. I understand that Tangiers is stronger than most, my problem was that myself and others I smoked with would NEVER consider the taste to be watermelon. A friend of mine commented saying it tasted like we were smoking BBQ. I don't know about that but I wasn't overheating the tobacco and was getting plenty of smoke. But what the hell do I know, I tried over and over again to get it smoking with flavor, every time getting an identical taste to what it smelt like in the bag... just can't describe it. Think about this... overcook a chicken, take blackened/overcooked skin off and eat it. There's my flavor.

[Scoop]

well the 2nd time i smoked, it had been acclimated for like a week.

i bought another tangiers today, and the phunnel bowl. lets hope it was an insolated incedent.

[Evil_Spork]

well the 2nd time i smoked, it had been acclimated for like a week.

i bought another tangiers today, and the phunnel bowl. lets hope it was an insolated incedent.

tangiers is crazy stuff and it takes alot of practice and some decent work to get it to smoke properly.

if you do it wrong its insanely harsh and/or wont have flavor or smoke.

my 2 or 3 times trying orange soda resulted in 1 super harsh super buzz session with good flavor.. i couldnt handle the harsh.
one time was great flavor and pretty bad harshness, and then another similar to that.

what i can tell you is that its hard to make it work right, but i get the idea that when you DO get it, youll have some thick ass smoke and a very strong flavor.
keep in mine im smoking this out of a small phunnel with the scalli mod. which for "normal" brands of shisha works AMAZINGLY. im getting obscene smoke and great flavor using quicklights!

[xpimpitox]

i used to get these results but acclimaiton, using a funnel and packing it bout 90 percent like tangers said and i LIGHTLY pack it down with an oyster fork (my mixin stick!) it smokes like a champ. it has an initial 5 mins of slight harshness but once it smooths out im in hookah heaven. this has worked for melon blend and passion fruit. i have green apple to try this method on. the extra effort that tangiers takes is well worth it...sadly my friends are wusses and cant take the tangiers tobac...and im the one who has asthma lol

[Sonthert]

90+% of the time, when people have these sorts of problems (burning, BBQ, bad flavor) its that they put too little tobacco in the bowl. The tobacco didn't smoke very heavily, so they put more charcoal on it to get more smoke and it starts to burn.

Despite, my best efforts, under packed bowls of Tangiers abound...snfff!

Its not hard, alot of people insist on just keeping one habit they picked up, they only put a little bit in, or they put like 8 holes in the foil or something, follow the advice...but insist on skipping one thing...ah lamentable, lamentable.

[mushrat]

The brief interruption to this post has been delt with, we now return you to a REAL question by a real member.

I have to say I break all the rules EXCEPT the acclimation one when smoking tangiers...

I cut it up smaller, I pack about 2/3 of a bowl, and I use a screen. I tried it the last few times with 3 kings and used 2 1/4 pieces, yes, 2 1/4 pieces and got the best smoke I've had in a long time. The melon blend was like i remember it. So if nothing else works, try it like I do. Use almost NO heat, kick back and enjoy. IT is NOT like any other smoke, so don't expect it to be. But Last night the Melon was smooth, strong, flavourful, with a nice buzz and NO harshness.

[Scoop]

The brief interruption to this post has been delt with, we now return you to a REAL question by a real member.

I have to say I break all the rules EXCEPT the acclimation one when smoking tangiers...

I cut it up smaller, I pack about 2/3 of a bowl, and I use a screen. I tried it the last few times with 3 kings and used 2 1/4 pieces, yes, 2 1/4 pieces and got the best smoke I've had in a long time. The melon blend was like i remember it. So if nothing else works, try it like I do. Use almost NO heat, kick back and enjoy. IT is NOT like any other smoke, so don't expect it to be. But Last night the Melon was smooth, strong, flavourful, with a nice buzz and NO harshness.

well, i got kashmir peach and fedex says its comin tomorrow. we'll see what happens. so basically just open it up and let it sit for like a day before i use it? (i also got the phunnel bowl and will be making my own little scalli mod for it)

[Zerodynamic]

The brief interruption to this post has been delt with, we now return you to a REAL question by a real member.

I have to say I break all the rules EXCEPT the acclimation one when smoking tangiers...

I cut it up smaller, I pack about 2/3 of a bowl, and I use a screen. I tried it the last few times with 3 kings and used 2 1/4 pieces, yes, 2 1/4 pieces and got the best smoke I've had in a long time. The melon blend was like i remember it. So if nothing else works, try it like I do. Use almost NO heat, kick back and enjoy. IT is NOT like any other smoke, so don't expect it to be. But Last night the Melon was smooth, strong, flavourful, with a nice buzz and NO harshness.

well, i got kashmir peach and fedex says its comin tomorrow. we'll see what happens. so basically just open it up and let it sit for like a day before i use it? (i also got the phunnel bowl and will be making my own little scalli mod for it)

that sounds real good. I would highly suggest you smoke without the mod first, then smoke with the mod for comparision... just so you know how much to pack. (you have to pack less with the mod obviously)

[Scoop]

The brief interruption to this post has been delt with, we now return you to a REAL question by a real member.

I have to say I break all the rules EXCEPT the acclimation one when smoking tangiers...

I cut it up smaller, I pack about 2/3 of a bowl, and I use a screen. I tried it the last few times with 3 kings and used 2 1/4 pieces, yes, 2 1/4 pieces and got the best smoke I've had in a long time. The melon blend was like i remember it. So if nothing else works, try it like I do. Use almost NO heat, kick back and enjoy. IT is NOT like any other smoke, so don't expect it to be. But Last night the Melon was smooth, strong, flavourful, with a nice buzz and NO harshness.

well, i got kashmir peach and fedex says its comin tomorrow. we'll see what happens. so basically just open it up and let it sit for like a day before i use it? (i also got the phunnel bowl and will be making my own little scalli mod for it)

that sounds real good. I would highly suggest you smoke without the mod first, then smoke with the mod for comparision... just so you know how much to pack. (you have to pack less with the mod obviously)

should i acclimate all my mix? i have 5 or 6 starbuzz cans coming too

[Zerodynamic]

The brief interruption to this post has been delt with, we now return you to a REAL question by a real member.

I have to say I break all the rules EXCEPT the acclimation one when smoking tangiers...

I cut it up smaller, I pack about 2/3 of a bowl, and I use a screen. I tried it the last few times with 3 kings and used 2 1/4 pieces, yes, 2 1/4 pieces and got the best smoke I've had in a long time. The melon blend was like i remember it. So if nothing else works, try it like I do. Use almost NO heat, kick back and enjoy. IT is NOT like any other smoke, so don't expect it to be. But Last night the Melon was smooth, strong, flavourful, with a nice buzz and NO harshness.

well, i got kashmir peach and fedex says its comin tomorrow. we'll see what happens. so basically just open it up and let it sit for like a day before i use it? (i also got the phunnel bowl and will be making my own little scalli mod for it)

that sounds real good. I would highly suggest you smoke without the mod first, then smoke with the mod for comparision... just so you know how much to pack. (you have to pack less with the mod obviously)

should i acclimate all my mix? i have 5 or 6 starbuzz cans coming too

if you plan on mixing... there are a couple way to go about it... the first way is to acclimate everything you plan on mixing, and at the time of smoking, then mix it.

I prefer to swirl up the juices in all my tins, take out a portion and do the same with all the flavors... then I acclimate the mix as if it were one flavor. this way it helps keep the base flavors fresher, longer.

[cypherkk]

2 2inch coals sounds like a lot too much heat to me. I used 2 jap quicklites at the edges (partially hanging off) when I started my tangiers. I bellieve they are about 1 inch in length.

[mushrat]

I now acclimate ALL my shisha.

and what's more, those 2 1/4 pieces of 3 kings were though a thick screen, with an air space, and the heat was still PERFECT!

[xpimpitox]

hey mush how long ya acclimate your non tangiers stuff. i dont find a need to acclimate anything that is not tangiers does it really make the big a difference like it does with eric's tobac?

[mushrat]

I figure the principle is the same, no matter what the brand. Generally, If i think I'm going to smoke that evening, I open the container before going to work. Sometimes I end up smoking something I haven't aired out, and it's not a problem, ut I do atleast TRY to give everything some air befor esmoking it...

[Scoop]

ok, so i got kashmir peach, packed into the phunnel bowl (which is amazing!!! for starbuzz), put heavy duty foil, folded over itself, with 2 planet hookah charcoals (1 inch and half inch pieces). opposite sides. its about 10mins into the smoke, im getting nothing lol.

im gonna start another coal. and post results.

i can tell you the bag itself smells horrible heh but the taste so far is no where near as bad as the smell from the bag suggests.