yurdan Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hello,I see that shipping is killing. I recommend bulk shipping to one member among you and he or she can ship to your address.Also i will promote this business by giving extra 10% discount (total 25% off). Please just write "hookahforum" on the note part while creating the request.I hope this would be help full. Best WishesHakan Yurdan.Com - Hookah / Nargiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerodynamic Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 QUOTE (yurdan @ Jan 24 2007, 09:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello,I see that shipping is killing. I recommend bulk shipping to one member among you and he or she can ship to your address.Also i will promote this business by giving extra 10% discount (total 25% off). Please just write "hookahforum" on the note part while creating the request.I hope this would be help full. Best WishesHakan Yurdan.Com - Hookah / NargilesUm what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 QUOTE (Zerodynamic @ Jan 24 2007, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (yurdan @ Jan 24 2007, 09:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello,Yurdan.Com - Hookah / NargilesUm what? Bloody expensive is what Nice, but WAY out of my price range.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersnowman Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) hmmmm.... good looking stuff. kinda expensiveo and hello to you to =) Edited January 24, 2007 by killersnowman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofdavid Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 So, is anyone going to bulk order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersnowman Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 QUOTE (ghostofdavid @ Jan 24 2007, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So, is anyone going to bulk order?lol yeah i was looking to bulk order some $400 hookahs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzgig Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Just search nargile on the site. They have a ton of hookahs! Most reasonably priced! I'm up for a bulk order! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurdan Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 Here is the all Nargile/Hookah collection at Yurdan.Com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hi and welcome to the forum. Please read the rules including guidlines for vendors. This isn't just for free advertising, you are expected to participate in the forum as a whole or you will not be permitted to post at all. I suggest a quick post introducing yourself and your business. I also suggest putting your company link in as your signture. Unfortuntely, like a certain other vendor on hiatus, you'll be unable to post for the next 24 hours as you take a short vacation for violating the rules i suspect you didn't bother to read before you posted. Nothing personal, just the way we work things here. Meanwhile I'll be looking over your site. Mushrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymptom Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 It would seem to me that this post does us more good than it even could harm...Given the language barrier, I wouldn't expect the kind of self-introduction we get from other vendors. That said, it's plainly obvious that posts about Yurdan from the user named Yurdan in a thread about Yurdan will carry that inherent self-promotional bias and thus should be taken with a grain of salt. I guess I'm kinda confused about the danger here... again, given the language difference, you can't really expect Yurdan to stick around and chat...I'm glad to see this post because there is currently a rising demand for traditional style, mainly brass, hookahs on the forums, mirroring a rising trend in America of emphasis on cheap Chinese produced hookahs.As for those who are complaining that they are expensive, I'm not sure what you're talking about. There are a few that are costly, particularly the ceramic pieces, but most are under $100 and many are under $50. Check out the line of brass pieces: http://www.yurdan.com/yrdn/Search.aspx?q_k...ogID=YRDN_Gifts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzgig Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 God knows I'm interested in what Yurdan has to offer, but by the same token... I still agree with the mods. I'm happy they enforce the rules around here. If they're reputable, they'll follow the rules. And lookin at their stuff... Gawd, I HOPE they're reputable!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 If he speaks english well enough to post an advertisement on an english speaking forum, he speaks enough english to read and understand the rules and participate accordingly. We;ve had plenty of non-native english speakers here in the past and they have gotten along juuuust fine.And I'm sorry but if we're going to bust on etc,smiley,and everyone else we've suspended, he gets the same treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymptom Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Well I'm not saying he shouldn't have to follow the rules, I just don't see how he broke them any more than any other vendor. QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 25 2007, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If he speaks english well enough to post an advertisement on an english speaking forum, he speaks enough english to read and understand the rules and participate accordingly. We;ve had plenty of non-native english speakers here in the past and they have gotten along juuuust fine.Not necessarily true -- I have had the experience of having to write in a completely foreign language and know that sometimes when your knowledge of the language is extremely limited (not to make any assumptions about Yurdan...) you need to figure out just enough to form the content of the message. I wrote hundreds of emails in Japanese last year that, if read back to me now, I probably wouldn't fully understand. Many of the terms and grammatical structures I used in one context might not make sense to me in another. This thread is of course an advertisement, but it's also a response to the discussion in the "syrian hookahs" thread. It's not mere promotional spam, which is what the rules do prohibit -- it's also largely a response to forum discussion. Self-interested for sure, but do you think Tangiers makes so many posts telling people how to get his tobacco smoking right just because he wants to see smiles on their faces? Sometimes you can't clearly separate forum contribution from self-interested advertisement, and in such past cases I'd say the decision has been to value more highly the contribution to the forum even if it carries some degree of bias. Going back and reading the rules again, I'm almost sure that Mya Saray and Social Smoke have violated them more explicitly and frequently than Yurdan has here, but I don't recall either of them ever being suspended...Don't mean to overstep my bounds here, it's just that I'd rather not see us discourage vendors from letting us know what's up and offering discount codes -- especially vendors like Yurdan who actually have an intriguing line of products hard to come by in the American (online) market. It's not the dangerous underhanded kind of advertising the mods have done well to weed out in the past -- I think Yurdan made it clear enough that in this thread is a vendor pointing to his own store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakemonster Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 QUOTE This thread is of course an advertisement, but it's also a response to the discussion in the "syrian hookahs" thread. It's not mere promotional spam, which is what the rules do prohibit -- it's also largely a response to forum discussion.I get the same notion.... I imagine someone had contacted Yurdan via email and asked some questions.... probably one of them was "is there a hookahforum.com discount?"It would be a really strange coincidence that he would come here within 2 days of his URL getting posted.I signed up long ago when the board was a different software..... do you guys now have something in the confirmation email at signup.....or some statement in the sign up pages directing new members to read the rules FIRST? Might think on that... I know, forum moderators and admin tend to expect that everyone would have that respect to do so anyway.... but it just doesnt happen. The rules can end up being a "steel trap" to people coming in..... pointing them to the rules first takes out alot of this kind of unpleasantness I figure Hakan made an assumption that his post wasnt a problem... but then we know what an assumption is.At least the guy "shit and got off the pot"... yeah know? He hasnt jumped in on threads tried to fish business out of n00bs asking questions. I am not interested in critisizing... even on a constructive level.... I simply wanted to address an issue that might make life easier and there be less problems or hard feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymptom Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 QUOTE (Lakemonster @ Jan 25 2007, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>At least the guy "shit and got off the pot"... yeah know? He hasnt jumped in on threads tried to fish business out of n00bs asking questions. At least he's not shittin everywhere, all over others' property!But seriously, I wouldn't call it shit (not that you literally meant to, Lake) -- it's part advertisement, part discussion, even part help. You can break down one's motivations as far as you want and make anybody seem purely self-interested, but often it's distracting or wasteful to think of things this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersnowman Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 i want one of those damascus swords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLipinski Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I think that the temp. ban was a little harsh, but I can understand it. I would have gave him a warning saying, what you said in your previous post mushy. I can understand this temp. ban though, so I respect it somewhat. Thanks for the discount too, Yurdan. Hope to see you actively participating in the forum's discussions, if you decide to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 ok, here's what i looked at. He had 2 posts. The first was a sentence and a link to his site. The second one is the one I saw and it was still an offer for his stuff, an extra discount, and nothing really added to the conversation. Were there more than the 2 posts that the search didn't turn up? If so, i'm sorry i missed him doing something other than pointing to his site...It's only 24 hours. If he comes back with any luck he'll have read the rules and will understand that having your first 2 posts advertisements doesn't look real good.Sorry guys, but if the rules aren't enforced equally, then they shouldn't be enforced at all.As for Mya and SS.Mya, when mahmoud is in country atleast, not only posts advertisements, but the watch for mentions of problems with their products and, before the format change, actually used to participate in both the forum posting a little bit, and used to pop into the forum chat quite a bit and just shoot the shit.Social smoke, I think there have been a few posts from Ali, but again, the have contributed in the past, and you don't find them self promoting ALL the time. Please don't forget we have actually suspended a few of the major suppliers at one time or another for rules violation, they've just learned to play by the rules.I'm orry, but personally, if i join something, I read the rules first, be it a club, a game, a forum, anything. Why shouldn't the same be expected of our members? Should we post a sticky? "vendors read this before posting?" Ya can't complain about one vendor doing it and expect another to be allowed to, for any reason. And as far as english goes, there are other forums in other languages, this one happens to be in english. If you are unable to contribute as a member due to a language barrier, you sure as heck shouldn't be advertising! The above paragraph is my personal feelings on the matter. The rest is standard forum policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) besides, i personally would rather the mods keep a close reign on things and im proud of ours for having the balls to step up and let people know they should think before they post, especially vendors. otherwise they govern loosely and we end up with people taking advantage of the forums. once you lose control its really hard to get it back. Edited January 25, 2007 by camelflage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakemonster Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) QUOTE I'm orry, but personally, if i join something, I read the rules first, be it a club, a game, a forum, anything. Why shouldn't the same be expected of our members? Should we post a sticky? "vendors read this before posting?"Yes... my .02 I dont like it, I think that most folks would have the common courtesy to do so. BUT, what happens is people see a forum and freak out and go "OH MY GOD! THEIR TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING I LOVE!!!! I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY!!!!111". Then they go running pell mell at the front door when they spy what they fancy all the way to the back....OMG!!!!!and run right past the sign almost at the front that says........"No Running"I went there. Edited January 25, 2007 by Lakemonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 QUOTE (cymptom @ Jan 24 2007, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As for those who are complaining that they are expensive, I'm not sure what you're talking about. There are a few that are costly, particularly the ceramic pieces, but most are under $100 and many are under $50. Check out the line of brass pieces: http://www.yurdan.com/yrdn/Search.aspx?q_k...ogID=YRDN_GiftsBRASS?Wouldn't be a bad idea to smoke out of something that is brass? Copper i can understand (all the pipes in houses in the uk are copper) but brass ?(INFO : It's fully possible that i have this mixed up - please don't bite my head off)JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 You wouldn't want a brass BOWL or anything that got particularly hot perhaps, but the whole stem of one of mine is brass and its really just has smoke passing through it, no i don't think there is much danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 25 2007, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You wouldn't want a brass BOWL or anything that got particularly hot perhaps, but the whole stem of one of mine is brass and its really just has smoke passing through it, no i don't think there is much danger.Cool, Thanks Mushy How does brass re-act with the water? hookahs.co.uk have some brilliant hookah's witha brass 'heart'...http://www.hookahs.co.uk/home/scripts/prod...sp?idproduct=42I really fancy this dealio on the bottom of the stem!JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 The down pipe into the water isn't brass, i believe its copper. The rest of it seems to be doing just fine.This is the Raven II from www.hookahook.com though I don't think they have this one anymore.Looking at the link, i notice the hose doesn't seem to plug in using a grommet. That has been a problem for some in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 So, somebody gets a 24hr. nap...they can come back and all is well.I was gonna order some bulk shipping...but I'm fat enough as it is! Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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