cityboyyy Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 i bought a mya qt about 7 months ago ... with time the quality deteriorated ... i started seeing a bit of rust .... theres an aftertaste i cant get rid of and also the base is very hard to clean the bottom of it ... and i tried cleaning with hot water ... hookah brushes ... lemon juice ... i just dont know im thinkin maybe i need a new hookah ... brass preferably? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagelessdude Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 My Mya Acrylic has never rusted and its pushin 2 years old... the tobacconist said the acrylic and QT stems were both stainless... shouldnt rush... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glz88 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 But you gotta keep in mind that when stainless steel is exposed to heat the stainless part tends to chip and then it begins to rust. I dunno about the acrylic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerodynamic Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 while stainless steel doesn't rust, with enough time it will gather surface rust.... (The kind of rust the just builds on top of the existing metal but doesn't eat away at it like normal zinc based metals) No biggie. Go down to the store and pick up some CLR and soak it in it... It will look like new! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboyyy Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 im actually thinking maybe its not stainless steel maybe its just a very thin coat of stainless steel and underneath it cheap aluminum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerodynamic Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 QUOTE (cityboyyy @ Feb 4 2007, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>im actually thinking maybe its not stainless steel maybe its just a very thin coat of stainless steel and underneath it cheap aluminum?A coat of stainless? then aluminum? I don't think so.... Myas are renoun for their quality... its stainless allright. Trust me, get a jug of CLR and no more rust.. or the taste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboyyy Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 where would you get clr from and is it hazardous in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerodynamic Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 (edited) QUOTE (cityboyyy @ Feb 4 2007, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>where would you get clr from and is it hazardous in any way?You can CLR at a grocery store (i think) but I know my hardware store sells it. CLR isn't any more hazardous then any other house hold cleaner.. Just soak the stem (and even the base if you want) and wait like 30 minutes then take like a sponge and wipe off the surface rust... rinse with water and let air dry... you should be good to go! Edited February 5, 2007 by Zerodynamic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboyyy Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 straight clr not mixed with water or lemon juice or anything ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerodynamic Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 QUOTE (cityboyyy @ Feb 4 2007, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>straight clr not mixed with water or lemon juice or anything ?To be honest its up to personal preference... I usually don't dilute, but that can be expensive after a while. if its really bad/stinky, the no... it is tolerable.. then dilute... but leave it in for longer (like an hour) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboyyy Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 thanks man ... ill try soaking it all in clr tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerodynamic Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 QUOTE (cityboyyy @ Feb 4 2007, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thanks man ... ill try soaking it all in clr tomorrowHey no problem... I use CLR all the time for my hookah stuff, and the rust should come off with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Well, here is the corn-fusing part when it comes to alloys.... they come in different grades and types. You hear about aircraft aluminum and say a popular grade of stainless is 440C for making knives. The short story is that not all stainless is the same and not all aluminum is the same and even not all grades of steel in general is the same.Metalurgy is a science and just like you can expect when the word "science" comes into the picture so do the variables.Believe it or not I am not trying to confuse the situation but there is a lot to this. What makes the different grades and types of alloys is a LOT more complicated than what most people realize. Rust is iron oxide. Most people don't know for example that if you "clean" stainless with a common wire wheel brush that it will leave iron deposits on the surface that will oxidize and become rust particles on the suface of even the highest grade stainless.With all that said I can say that my two MYA's, a QT and my 28" have not shown any signs of rust but at the same time I have not read exactly what grade of alloy they use and how stringent they are on their manufacturing process. In other words if they let iron get into a batch of alloy it would contaminate. The only way you get true "rust" is iron particles.Before you guys beat me up too badly remember I was a welder for a lot of years and metallurgy was a pain in my ass for a lot of that time. Go to this link and click on the different grades and look at the compositions. Keep in mind that for welders we had to know these compositions to pick the correct filler metal, i.e. type of wire or brazing rod to use. http://www.alleghenyludlum.com/pages/products/products.aspWe could get into that types of corrosion for say aluminum. If you take apart an engine or pull a cast aluminum water pump on a car that ran water instead of antifreeze for a long time you will see pitting and corrosion with a white chaulky residue, but anything reddish and looks like rust is iron. Oh, and Shiner says ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Was gonna say, if you're seein anythin reddish, then it has to be an iron mixture (stainless or just ordinary steel)...Aluminium can corrode, but wont rust. (rust, the red stuff is a form of Iron Oxide [can be Fe2+ or Fe3+]) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboyyy Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 scalli you never had a problem with your qt ? how do you keep the base clean? its very hard to get anything down the narrow opening and to scrum the bottom of the glass base ? and for everyone else posting here .... do you guys recomend the clr method too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I use a little Oxyclean in the water. I shake the shit out of it with one hand over the top, then let it i]sit while I clean the stem. Then I shake it again and pour out the Oxyclean solution and use a lemon juice solution, then rinse with plain water. It comes out looking and smelling like new. I got the Oxyclean idea because people on the homebrew (beer) forums and some homebrew books mention using it to clean and sanitize beermaking equipment. When it comes to making beer it is VERY easy to contaminate a batch so these people take cleaning very seriously.Turns out it works pretty well for hookahs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiley Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Oxie Clean Good tip. Thank you Scali. Have you tried it in your hose?Smiley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerodynamic Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 hrmmm... I'll have to give the Oxi Clean a run when my CLR runs out.... thanks Scalli! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 QUOTE (smiley @ Feb 5 2007, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Oxie Clean Good tip. Thank you Scali. Have you tried it in your hose?SmileyNot yet. I do not clean my hoses very often. I have three MYA washables and I use them for compatible flavors. When I do clean them I usually plug one end of the hose and fill it with the lemon juice & water and let it sit about 5 minutes. Then I rinse with water and blow it out with my air compressor. I have moisture and oil traps so it does not contaminate the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboyyy Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 where do you get oxie clean from ? only those tv infomercials ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 They sell it in stores now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tony Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 (edited) Any grocery store or mega mart should have it, (Target, Wal Mart, etc.) Edited February 6, 2007 by Sir Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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