SafeSearchOff Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I know this was mentioned in one of the topics a little while ago and I want to bring it back to fruition. Water filtering the nicotine out of the baccy... warm or cold is better? I remember some one saying warm, and I instantly remembered something from chem and agreed, but I just remembered something else from chem. In COLDER temperatures, gases are more soluble. So is the smoke including the nicotine, tar, etc, considered to be in gaseous or liquid form? Because if it is in gaseous form, then adding ice would in fact filter more, but if you cosnider it to be liquid, make your water warm for more filtration...123argue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glz88 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 tar is not soluble i don't kno about nicotine so i still stick w/ cold water since the smoke is smoother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieces Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Seeing as I believe it's in a gaseous form, I'll go with cold. It also makes a much smoother smoke Also, I can't say for every brand, but I just checked the Layalina, Al Waha, and Starbuzz labels I have on hand and there's no tar, so that part is invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 (edited) i personally like cold water more, because i just seem to get more taste for some reason. but warm water on the other hand works better as a solvent, i don`t know if that applies to nicotine and tar in smoke form though. Edited February 6, 2007 by shisha fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah~rob~ Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 tar is soluble in alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattler Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Most of the nasties you breath in when you breath in smoke are particulate solids...Not liquids or gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 QUOTE (rattler @ Feb 6 2007, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Most of the nasties you breath in when you breath in smoke are particulate solids...Not liquids or gas. ure sure nicotine doesnt become a gas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 1. Warm water filters nicotine better until about 60C, then it goes down again. (140F)2. Nicotine does turn into a vapor around 195C (far lower than the charcoal temperature).3. Hookah tar is mainly comprised on glycerine which is soluble in water. Tobacco tar is anything that is not tobacco...glycerine is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattler Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Feb 6 2007, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (rattler @ Feb 6 2007, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Most of the nasties you breath in when you breath in smoke are particulate solids...Not liquids or gas. ure sure nicotine doesnt become a gas?Now why would you want to filter out the nicotine??? Serously I wouldn't smoke if it didn't have the nicotine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 what do you think is so great about nicotine? it doesn`t make you feel "special" like certain other things do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 My mommy tells me that I am special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE (hookah hippie @ Feb 7 2007, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My mommy tells me that I am specialyeah, so does mine. but that wasn`t really what i meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattler Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE (shisha fan @ Feb 6 2007, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what do you think is so great about nicotine? it doesn`t make you feel "special" like certain other things do.LOL...a good nicotine buzz is relaxing. I hate washed tobacco...not enough nicotine. So I certainly wouldn't be trying to filter it out...I also see it as one of the less harmful chemicals in smoke. At any rate it's not what causes the cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE (rattler @ Feb 7 2007, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (shisha fan @ Feb 6 2007, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what do you think is so great about nicotine? it doesn`t make you feel "special" like certain other things do.LOL...a good nicotine buzz is relaxing. I hate washed tobacco...not enough nicotine. So I certainly wouldn't be trying to filter it out...I also see it as one of the less harmful chemicals in smoke. At any rate it's not what causes the cancer.it`s mostly the tar that causes cancer, but nicotine on its own is pretty harmful too, i believe i read somewhere that nictotine can also be used as a pesticide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherkk Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 there's all sorts of things that can cause cancer. Everything is deadly when taken or used in large enough quantities, this includes both air and water.But, the largest cause of cancer is free radical oxygen. Free radical oxygen is created whenever a oxygen based material goes though a chemical process. Such things include electricity, fire, heating, pressure, etc.... whenever a oxygen molecule is broken up it will separate and if it doesn't immed. bond it will float around till it finds something to bond to. Oxygen is typically O'2 however is also very common for much less stable O'3 referred to as ozone. Ozone is generally the oxygen component created from the exchange above. As ozone is less stable, it tends to break up after a short period of time back into O'2 and O the singular O will join freely with many other molecules. This is also the process responsible for rusting and aging, as I understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Yes, nicotine is STILL used as a pesticide especially in applications where human safety is important, ie dairies, breweries etc...a little nicotnie gets in there...no biggie. Chemicals/compounds have varying amounts of effects on different animals. Caffeine for instance, humans have one of the highest tolerances to caffeine of any animal. Zyklon B, the agent used in the halocaust is deadly to humans, but rats can't inhale enough to kill them (Zyklon B was developed un der the guise of being a pesticide). Antibiotics are deadly to bacteria but more or less harmless to humans. It attacks a chemical we don't have in our bodies that a bacterium needs to keep from collapsing. Tobacco beatles can eat tobacco leaves without noticing the nicotine content whereas most bugs will avoid tobacco leaves religiously. That is...its a pesticide, so what...what does that have to do with humans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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