Luke69 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 My hose is not washable but i still wash it pretty often. It has a lot of rust in it. My friend used it and did something to it that made it have a terrible taste which was worse than usual. So i was thinking about how to clean it and saw some mouthwash. It was Listerine vanilla mint flavour. So washed it with water then poured some mouthwash down the hose and swished it around for a while. When i smoked it had the nice cooling effect of mint shisha but with the flavour of another. Is there something that might be bad about it. I figured it may kill the bacteria that might be growing as well. I suggest you try it unless there is something bad about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootdown Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 if its not washable... you shouldn't have done thatthrow that thing out, its ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheetz Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Yeah, I wouldn't hold on to it. Rust is worse than anything else you will get from smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahir Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 (edited) QUOTE (Luke69 @ Feb 26 2007, 06:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My hose is not washable but i still wash it pretty often. It has a lot of rust in it. My friend used it and did something to it that made it have a terrible taste which was worse than usual. So i was thinking about how to clean it and saw some mouthwash. It was Listerine vanilla mint flavour. So washed it with water then poured some mouthwash down the hose and swished it around for a while. When i smoked it had the nice cooling effect of mint shisha but with the flavour of another. Is there something that might be bad about it. I figured it may kill the bacteria that might be growing as well. I suggest you try it unless there is something bad about it.Sounds like a good solution to a problem a lot of people have with their hoses......Although, I am also concerned with the affect that mouthwash has when you inhale it....I think you should maybe rinse it after swishing it to be safe.I know there has to be a reason not to swallow it....If i remember correctly, its got some sort of benzine in it i think....check the ingredients.On the otherhand....i reccomend buying a new hose....b/c that rust build up is not good at all....I remember once inhaling bits of rust from a junky hookah a friend had a while back.....man that hurt! Edited February 26, 2007 by NazarHookah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbomb Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Nice, I'm going to try that next time for my MYA washable hose. But throw that rusty hose away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherkk Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Menthol salicylate. Its one of the 4 ingredients in lysterine that isn't and alchohol... (alch. one reason not to drink it) But the salicylate is poisonous in large quantities.... I'm guesssing you'd have to drink quite a bit They seem a lot more concerened about eating ben-gay than drinking lysterine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pick86 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 yes menthol salicylate can be quite dangerous indeed. and so can methyl (wood) alcohol which is also commonly found in mouthwash. thi is not the ethanol you will find in beer and wine and such. the simple fact you are inhaling this alcohol is dangerous. it goes directly to your brain after being absorbed by pulmonary capillaries in the lungs. it bypasses first pass metabolism in the liver. it can diffuse across the blood brain barrier in the head and cause permanent cause blindness, organ damage, and death by having direct access to the occipital lobe and cranial nerves. especially the stuff in mouthwash. yes the alcohol is 'denatured' because otherwise they would be subject to higher taxes, but because factories are not skilled enough to 100% denature their products, there is still kerosene and other contaminants in there. time to throw that away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootdown Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 smarty pants!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattookah Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 WHAT do you guys mean by not washable how am i supposed to know if i was/nt meant to clean my hoses??? ive been cleaning them in hot water eversince i bought them.i had to clean them as they were dirty....so are you just meant to live with inhaling coal bits in your mouth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 NO Mattokah.You either find a way to clean them without using water.-OR-You buy washable ones.-OR- You make your own hose from food-grade flexible tubing!You don't smoke dirty hoses. Rust particles in your lungs? Not a good idea.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 eww, the idea alone makes me want to barf my guts out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 mattookah, its impossible to inhale ash and coal bits, as it is filtered through water.if your hose is not washable, blow it out real hard before and after each session a few times so you don't inhale gunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allia22 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Boo, unwashable hoses. Yay, beer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macho555 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 It's beer! Hooray Beer! Yeah, you should have chucked that hose the second you saw rust. You just can't beat MYA hoses! Even WITH a washable hose, you don't want to wash it TOO much, or it will still go to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioannisds Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 QUOTE (Allia22 @ Feb 26 2007, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Boo, unwashable hoses. Yay, beer!I think you meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioannisds Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 QUOTE (Macho555 @ Feb 26 2007, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's beer! Hooray Beer! Yeah, you should have chucked that hose the second you saw rust. You just can't beat MYA hoses! Even WITH a washable hose, you don't want to wash it TOO much, or it will still go to hell.DAMNIT you beat me to it. Well played, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheetz Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Feb 26 2007, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>mattookah, its impossible to inhale ash and coal bits, as it is filtered through water.thats not true, you will still inhale it. The water doesnt filter everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allia22 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 QUOTE (ioannisds @ Feb 26 2007, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Allia22 @ Feb 26 2007, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Boo, unwashable hoses. Yay, beer!I think you meantThere it is! Been a while since I've seen one of those commercials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattookah Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 BUT after say one session or 2 sessions...il leave my hose alone.and then the next day i smoke there will be black 'coal' residue in my mouth on the tongue.once i wash the hose in HOT HOT water its very nice and clean..ive been doing this for a few weeks now SO basically my hoses are f#cked....? or rusting inside.... ? il be so sad.... damn.how ARE you meant to know if youre hoses are washable or not.it doesnt exactly have a label saying ' WasH Me' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 QUOTE (Mattookah @ Feb 26 2007, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BUT after say one session or 2 sessions...il leave my hose alone.and then the next day i smoke there will be black 'coal' residue in my mouth on the tongue.once i wash the hose in HOT HOT water its very nice and clean..ive been doing this for a few weeks now SO basically my hoses are f#cked....? or rusting inside.... ? il be so sad.... damn.how ARE you meant to know if youre hoses are washable or not.it doesnt exactly have a label saying ' WasH Me' hoses that are washable will say that they are, everything else u can assume isnt.... i clean my hoses out by sending air through them using an air compressor machine thing my dad has at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachslusser Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 sometimes if you smack your hose on a counter or bend it alot in different directions then blow it out in like the toilet or the sink then it will get those particles out thats what i do and it seems to work fine and i do it after a session and before my next one. Prolly should get rid of that hose Oh and what is like a rough estimate of the cost of the commercial grade food tubeing and what diameter would be best to use ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattookah Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 ok can someone explain the difference between a washable hose and a non washable hose...?I mean i friggin bought it and the guy said jack about cleaning them...so ive washed them plenty and theyre still strong and sucking great.are they just gonna start breaking soon or something... ive been telling all my friends to do the same and its been working.i mean even when i blow really hard or tap it etc i dont get that coal black residue out.a nice hot burst of water does the trick.oh well hoses here are cheapish.get them for around $7 - not bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerjer72 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Washable hoses are special hoses that are made to be able to handle being washed over and over for repeated amounts of times. They can handle being soaked in water. Normal hoses (which is what you probably have) can not and must not be placed in water ever! This will cause rust to build up and deteriorate your hose! Inhaling rust is very bad so make sure not to wash your hose anymore. I have non-washable hoses also and I do exactly what everyone else is saying to do. You have to blow into your hose before every use. I also get the nasty bits of debris inside my mouth when I smoke also. Sometimes blowing doesn't even help mine at all. Just make sure to throw out the rusty hose unless you feel it is fine to use. It is your own decision. As for inhaling mouthwash goes.. I have a friend who put orange listerine inside his base and smoked a whole session that way. He claims it was minty and refreshing. He seemed to enjoy it and he is still alive and well but that doesn't necessarily make it safe. I would stay away from the whole mouthwash idea and just stick to water or lemon juice or water for washable hoses. But for non-washable hoses just keep blowing the gunk out. It might be annoying but trust me you get used to it. I'm used to getting stuff in my mouth but the blowing seems to help. Also there are people on this board who claim that washing the stem with clr can make it as good as new to get rust out. I advise everyone not to do this. No matter how much you rinse it out that doesn't mean it is completely gone. I can't imagine inhaling clr to be good for you at all. Not better then inhaling mouthwash anyway. I hope this all helps you out. Just keep blowing in that hose or you can buy washable ones if you want but make sure that they are ment to be washed. If you aren't sure take a pic and show us and we can probably help you figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke69 Posted February 27, 2007 Author Share Posted February 27, 2007 I have some tubing that i got from a hardware store. But i dont think its food grade. Is it that bad if it isn'? Am i just doing everything wrong? I have never gotten any rust or anything really because i wash my hose right before every use and right after. So i don't know. I've thrown it out don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitzEnd Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 QUOTE (Luke69 @ Feb 27 2007, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have some tubing that i got from a hardware store. But i dont think its food grade. Is it that bad if it isn'? Am i just doing everything wrong? I have never gotten any rust or anything really because i wash my hose right before every use and right after. So i don't know. I've thrown it out don't worry.Its best for it to be food grade. Im about to use the end from some old non-washable hoses that i have and fit them on some vynil hosing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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