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Which Tobacco Gives The Most Clouds? I Read The Review Section


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Most tobaccos have the potential to create really thick smoke, but it is easier with some brands than others. I'd say Starbuzz smokes really stick really easily. Al Fakher smokes pretty thick too.
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I think it has as much (if not more) to do with the setup, as it does with what brand of tobacco.

I've had great results with Fumari and Starbuzz- haven't really tried other brands too much.

Try packing the bowl very loose and fluffy. Then, use a thin pen to make a central hole through the middle of the shisha. Experiment with different amounts of coal. Always use cold ice water in the base. Make sure your hookah is really airtight. Try a phunnel bowl with and without a mod.

Just experiment. You'll get it. wink.gif
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Got block-out-the-sun smoke with AF before I even knew what I was doing, that should say something. I put straight grape juice in my base and had a bowl of SB peach, that was RIDICULOUS XD
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i agree that starbuzz give great clouds. also smiley's, al waha, and in some cases romman also gives good smoke. like mentioned earlier, ur setup has something to do with it to. hell, i've gotten good clouds out of hookah hookah before.
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I'm currently smoking Al-Waha Orange Cream and its giving me thick clouds. I've got the base filled entirely with milk, and it seems like every time I use milk, it gives me thicker clouds. That, and using more coal also helps, just have to watch out for burning.
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  • 2 months later...
Layalina is the cloud master!

But like someone else said... any tobacco has the potential. It comes down to your managment of the bowl and coals.

I've had great big clouds from Nahkla.

So it's a rather subjective question.

JD
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QUOTE (Johnny_D) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Layalina is the cloud master!

But like someone else said... any tobacco has the potential. It comes down to your managment of the bowl and coals.

I've had great big clouds from Nahkla.

So it's a rather subjective question.

JD



+1 and the flavor kicks ass and it's not over priced and I personally love Layalina! lol
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Honestly, I get huge clouds with any brand I use. It's all in the setup. Some methods work better than others depending on which tabacco you use. Hell, I can even get massive clouds with Tangiers and most of you know that is hard to do. wink.gif
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It is a known fact that setup and amount of coal plays a crutial part in the amount of smoke one is going to get. But, in my opinion, it seems as though the question posted asked to name a brand(s) that produces a smooth (and I'm sure also flavorful) smoke in large amounts with the least bit of effort. Now its true that you can get brands like Hookah Hookah or Al-Waha to produce these results, but some, and often a descent amount of, effort is required to achieve a good smoke concentration, without loosing flavor and encountering harshness. Having smoked a limited number of flavors of Nakhla, Al-Waha, Havana, Sultan, and Hookah Hookah, I can honestly say than I am yet to encounter a brand that smokes as easy, as consistantly, as richly, and as flavorfully as Starbuzz.

I am yet to try Layalina, as I have heard it is on par with it.
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I always get thick cloud with AF and Nahkla Cherry but other than that is just smooth smoke not thick at all. I have a question abaou AL-Ajamy brand shisha have anyone smoke this brand here? I can't get it to smoke good and i have try everything and trust me i've done 1 hell of a setup but it just done smoke well. So anyone here smoke Al-ajamy? need your opinion and thanks


Edit: I just smoke Layalina Rasberry Today and the smoke is huge and this is the best smoke session ever. Al-Fakher too gives thick smoke. Peace smile.gif Edited by ezie
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Al Fahker Gives me the best clouds. It's weird though. Sometimes when i order Al Fahker the shisha is really juicy and sometimes its kinda dry. What's up with that?
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QUOTE (Ocrap @ Jun 5 2007, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Al Fahker Gives me the best clouds. It's weird though. Sometimes when i order Al Fahker the shisha is really juicy and sometimes its kinda dry. What's up with that?


Sometimes they probably send you out-of-date shit, the older a flavour is the less juice it has. Or it may have been exposed alot in the sun alot which has caused it to evapourate.

AF gives me the best smoke imo, although Naklha does kick really well. But as previously stated get the formula right with the water, minimal holes for smoke to escape through and high coal maintence and you've got a perfect formula.
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Just about anything short of Tangiers - not because of the tobacco it's self, more on my part of not being able to handle the nicotine kick well. I tend to sip it. But Al Waha, HH, Havana, Layalina, Nakhla and even Rommans, I've gotten them all to "cloud up" on me.
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Amount of smoke depends on amount of gylcerin, which is where the smoke comes from. Since your not burning the tobacco, the only smoke you get is from the glycerin added to the tobacco vaporising, and then getting condensed into a visible vapor. So the more glycerin the more smoke, but that only goes so far. The more heat the more smoke, because you vaporise more glycerin, and still that only takes you so far.
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I've noticed that pipes make a difference as well, i purchased my hookah from india and they had umm dont know what material pipes but i broke one and recently bought a new pipe that was the plastic piping and the smoke from that pipe relative to the other pipes had wayy more smoke. smile.gif
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QUOTE (Ghetto Byrd @ Jun 11 2007, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've noticed that pipes make a difference as well, i purchased my hookah from india and they had umm dont know what material pipes but i broke one and recently bought a new pipe that was the plastic piping and the smoke from that pipe relative to the other pipes had wayy more smoke. smile.gif


As ive said in a topic still on the front page, theres TONS of factors in determining the amount of smoke, and instead of retyping them, let me quote myself XD

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But to the subject on hand, ice and keeping the liquid cool only helps a certain amount, but it does increase amount of smoke, for the reasons i said. Milk does help thickness, even if its only a visual trick due to cloud color and density, we are just asking how to get thick clouds, and it does increase thickness. And as its been said, and i agree to this, heat management is the most important factor. But thats not saying much, all the other ones are almost as important, heat management just barely nudges out all the rest. One of the biggest killers of thickness is air leaks, as it allows air to mix with the smoke, and height can effect it, as well as what you put in the base, the temp the whole hookah is at, the humidity in the air, what humidity the tobacco was orignaly at before being smoked, what kind of baccy you are smoking, kind of coals, amount of coals, type of screen/foil, thickness of said device, packing technique, water level above stem, air chamber room, amount of hoses, how hard you suck, how fast your lungs absorb the smoke, how long you hold it in, if you breath in air after inhaling, and so on and so forth XD
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Hey guys,

I've never personally tried a brand that didn't create thick smoke for me. The biggest difference between all the brands is the accuracy of the flavor, potency, composition, harshness in the smoke, and length of smoke.

Starbuzz, Al Fakher, and Layalina have the best accuracy in flavor.

Tangiers, Starbuzz, and Fumari seem to be the most potent.

Starbuzz, Fumari, and Al Fakher, seem to have the finest composition, while El Nakhla, Al Waha, Tangiers, and Romman seem to be coarser.

Tangiers seems to smoke the harshest, followed by Romman, Nakhla, and Al Waha.

Tangiers & Romman seem to last the longest, followed by Starbuzz, Fumari, Al Fakher, Layalina, Havana, El Nakhla, and Al Waha.

This is in our personal experience with many flavors from each of these brands; our setup is relatively consistent (except we use a Phunnel for Tangiers).

Hope this helps wink.gif
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Coincidently, The four brands you listed as harsh (Tangiers, Romman, Nahkla and Al Waha) all contain nicotine, while the other ones Fumari, Starbuzz, Al Fahker, etc. do not. I guess nicotine is harsh. tongue.gif My personal observations are that is approximately their content of nicotine ranking, too. Tangiers and Romman have the most, Nahkla a little less, and Al Waha less still.

Anything with nicotine is going to have a different feel in the mouth, "harsh", its not hard to remove the nicotine to remove that feel. Its cheaper to use corn syrup than molasses, which changes how the flavor comes across too, but molasses is trickier to balance, but will carry more flavors. The real trick is getting a full nicotine and a good flavor. More or less, many of those brands are cheap because they are processed in as cheap a way as possible. The most expensive and best made brands of tobacco, rarely even imported to the US, all use molasses and have full nicotine.

I view it like St. Pauly Girl beer. Its a German beer, yet Germans have never heard of it because it is largely made for export. The good stuff is kept for the consumption of the country in question, while something that wouldn't be normally consumed by the native country is exported. Very few of us have tried the best brands from the Middle East, I have only tried two myself. Most of what we see in this market, what's being smoked is their "rejects". Nahkla is a fixture to be sure, but most of the brands being smoked in the Middle East we've never heard of. Edited by Sonthert
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