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Wow, that's a pretty strong statement. Defeats the purpose of the phunnel bowl? I guess I missed the memo. The phunnel bowl was designed to keep the juices from running into the vase was the way it was described here. But in doing so it reduces the amount of heat flowing through the shisha.
Without the mod most of the heat goes straight across and into the hole. Simple physics, least path of resistance.
Without heat the shisha does not smoke so it needs heat. All the heat that goes straight over and into the water is did not have much purpose. Instead of putting more wood on the fire I would rather close the window but of course that is just my opinion too. Anybody that likes to leave windows open and use more wood is okay with me smile.gif
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QUOTE (Scalliwag @ Mar 15 2007, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, that's a pretty strong statement. Defeats the purpose of the phunnel bowl? I guess I missed the memo. The phunnel bowl was designed to keep the juices from running into the vase was the way it was described here. But in doing so it reduces the amount of heat flowing through the shisha.
Without the mod most of the heat goes straight across and into the hole. Simple physics, least path of resistance.
Without heat the shisha does not smoke so it needs heat. All the heat that goes straight over and into the water is did not have much purpose. Instead of putting more wood on the fire I would rather close the window but of course that is just my opinion too. Anybody that likes to leave windows open and use more wood is okay with me smile.gif


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QUOTE (Scalliwag @ Mar 15 2007, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, that's a pretty strong statement. Defeats the purpose of the phunnel bowl? I guess I missed the memo. The phunnel bowl was designed to keep the juices from running into the vase was the way it was described here. But in doing so it reduces the amount of heat flowing through the shisha.
Without the mod most of the heat goes straight across and into the hole. Simple physics, least path of resistance.
Without heat the shisha does not smoke so it needs heat. All the heat that goes straight over and into the water is did not have much purpose. Instead of putting more wood on the fire I would rather close the window but of course that is just my opinion too. Anybody that likes to leave windows open and use more wood is okay with me smile.gif


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+3, that guy is totally missing the concept. Scalli that was an awesome idea. I thank you every time I smoke. One of those simple things u see and say "I can't believe I didn't think of that." Simple and efficient wins every time.
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QUOTE (djnick @ Mar 15 2007, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
scalli mod defeats the whole purpose of the phunnel bowl, imo its not worth it no matter how it changes the smoke


You missed the point of the mod. Period.

Try researching a little before making such a bold, yet stupid, statement.

The Mod completes the funnel bowl.

JD
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QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Mar 16 2007, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (djnick @ Mar 15 2007, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
scalli mod defeats the whole purpose of the phunnel bowl, imo its not worth it no matter how it changes the smoke


You missed the point of the mod. Period.

Try researching a little before making such a bold, yet stupid, statement.

The Mod completes the funnel bowl.

JD


so how effective is the funnel bowl without the mod? i just ordered a funnel do i need to go and make a mod or will it work fine without it? this isnt a direct question for jd either... i just quoted because hes saying the mod completes the funnel

is it like saying hot fudge completes a ice cream sunday? is it that crutcial to get?
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The mod 'completes' the funnel by routing the airflow to get the maximum effect from the funnel.

You can buy it from Tarik & MNHookah if you have time but no tinkering skills or make your own since the basic construction is easy if you are impatient and can't wait for MNH...

I think they are worth it biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Mar 16 2007, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (djnick @ Mar 15 2007, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
scalli mod defeats the whole purpose of the phunnel bowl, imo its not worth it no matter how it changes the smoke


You missed the point of the mod. Period.

Try researching a little before making such a bold, yet stupid, statement.

The Mod completes the funnel bowl.

JD


so how effective is the funnel bowl without the mod? i just ordered a funnel do i need to go and make a mod or will it work fine without it? this isnt a direct question for jd either... i just quoted because hes saying the mod completes the funnel

is it like saying hot fudge completes a ice cream sunday? is it that crutcial to get?
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I think you can use just about anything for a mod, just get the heat to go through more tobacco. MNHookah didn't have any in stock when I got my bowl (I asked them to hold my order untill they got some more in, but they replied saying it may take a wile), so I build my own by cutting slits with a dremel in the sides of the copper cap. I was not able to properly bend one and this was much easier, works well too..
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could you use a thimble?

i dunno sounds like a simple yet inexpensive mod that could work if you couldn't purchase a real one from the site.. You can by a metal thimble at walmart for 1.50 Edited by kornkitten42
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QUOTE (kornkitten42 @ Mar 17 2007, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
could you use a thimble?

i dunno sounds like a simple yet inexpensive mod that could work if you couldn't purchase a real one from the site.. You can by a metal thimble at walmart for 1.50


or a copper cap from Home Depot for 50 cents
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1. Anyone know how/why I can't upload attachments so I can show my phunnel baffle sad.gif

2. Thimble SIZE does Matter wink.gif (as does material - thinking stainless is okay, other stuff is questionable). Get one and put it over the center of the funnel. If it doesn't 'hang' all the way down, no go. If it does, you need to deform the bottom just enough so air can get in @ the bottom (try making the bottom square). This should be easier than the copper caps if they fit the above parameters biggrin.gif

3. Something for me to look into - thanks biggrin.gif

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could you use a thimble?

i dunno sounds like a simple yet inexpensive mod that could work if you couldn't purchase a real one from the site.. You can by a metal thimble at walmart for 1.50
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You could also use the little metal tins they put tea candles in, just shape it a little.
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Hrmmm... as the guy that started to make his own knockoffs, I'll add my two cents.

I personally love the mod. The others are right in saying that the mod completes the bowl. Does this mean you HAVE to have the mod? No, but it'll take more shisha and more skill to produce the same effect. Personally, I don't use the mod on my small phunnel, cause its so small that I have to put in the recommended amount of tobacco anyway. If we are talking medium or large, thats a different story. I enjoy the mod on them, and the quality of the sessions is much improved.

Overall we have 2 people that we should really be kissing ass to:

1. Eric- for making a revolutionary new bowl design that practically changed the culture of hookah smoking itself. (and he makes awesome tobacco too!)
2. Scalli- For his ingenunity and craftsmanship, to improve on an already fantastic design. (and i hear he makes awesome beer!)


As to make one yourself, in the past week I have posted like 3 threads on this. Look at little bit, b/c I explain how easy it is to do. The mod itself should literally cost you 59 cents, (tax included) and 10 minutes.
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for everyone who asked "how important is the mod" or the guy that just didnt get it:

scalli mod is really important. it becomes painfully obvious why if you have a bit of common sense. picture where the heat goes in your head.

im the idiot with no mod and i cant get good smoke until i put 7 japanese coals on it sleep.gif
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QUOTE (metalhead209 @ Mar 16 2007, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Mar 16 2007, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (djnick @ Mar 15 2007, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
scalli mod defeats the whole purpose of the phunnel bowl, imo its not worth it no matter how it changes the smoke


You missed the point of the mod. Period.

Try researching a little before making such a bold, yet stupid, statement.

The Mod completes the funnel bowl.

JD


so how effective is the funnel bowl without the mod? i just ordered a funnel do i need to go and make a mod or will it work fine without it? this isnt a direct question for jd either... i just quoted because hes saying the mod completes the funnel

is it like saying hot fudge completes a ice cream sunday? is it that crutcial to get?


It'll work ok without the mod, the mod just makes things go a little better. Simple smile.gif
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that doesnt really show how to make one. i think ill try the guy's idea who made it out of foil. isnt there something bad about smoking with copper?...
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