Altron Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 (edited) So I went to Paterson, NJ today to take a look at the hookah store there. Very nice, large selection of hookahs and really good prices. (rotator single hose, pretty large probably at least 30 inches for $65). MUCH BETTER THAN ANYTHING IN PISCATAWAY OR NEW BRUNS.... BTW they have the aquarium hookahs on sale there at $40.00... def going to invest in one of those in the near future. Also have divas and other types of small hookahs, for the same price, or cheaper than online.So if anyone is in the area should def check it out for themselves.The shisha selection is pretty large, however, it only has a few brands.Nakhla, Havana, Al Fakhar, and 1 Al Wahla that I couldn't make out(edit - I was disappointed that no after 9 was there and the guy looked at me like I had 2 heads when I asked for Chocolate Mint). They also had some misc shisha wrapped up with no brand names which smelt alright... but not for me.So I was stoked to have a smoke and went ahead to pick up a box of 3 kings coals and 4 tubs of shisha.Havana Strawberry, Al Fakhar Raspberry, White Grape, and Orange.So I immediately drove home with my friend.Opened them each up and found that each were saturated in molasses and smelt pretty pretty good. Went right ahead to packing a bowl of white grape/orange .and lit up 2 3k's and off we went.(This is my first time buying either brand or smoking either... basically went from shitty Nakhla to SB and some AA, so I was anxious to see what goodies I had brought home).So I take a few rips and there is no flavor at all? I had a hint of orange in my mouth... but it tasted like ass. The smell of opening the container was really good... smelt like gatorade to me.... but it tasted horrendous.The bowl was finished off and we took a 30 min break and drove somewhere near my friends house and packed it with havana strawberry.So same deal, again tasted like ass. I'm praying to god that Raspberry will be decent.It smells amazing, but when it came down to it, it was so fucking bad that I just put my hoses down.Also, I'm getting shitty clouds? Decent clouds to start which taper off to minimal clouds. My heat management is there... Aren't both brands supposed to give off nice white clouds? I've gotten bigger with Nakhla and even Hookah-Hookah....Bad batch or just shitty choices...? Edited April 13, 2007 by Altron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafesaden Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 AF gets me thick white smoke, must be a fault in your hookah/setup. remember the smallest thing can throw off your session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I personally don't rate 3 kings so much... Are you using enough heat? Some tobacco's like a lot of heat to really get them going.However my experiences of al fakhir are not so great (Apart from grape, that was amazing)Orange was bland and not great.Don't even talk to me about strawberry Havana Strawberry is also awfull. I have a 50g freebie from hookahcompany late last yearand it was just crud. No taste, not even worth smoking.So i don't think you have got great tobaccos (others will, of course, disagree )JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altron Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 yea I'm def using enough heat, I just plop 2 full 3ks on top.I dunno, it may be my setup, but I don't hear any leaks. The main problem may actually be the hose connections. There is a cross in the middle of it... don't understand, but it probably was there to catch the ball bearings that I took out. I'll take pictures when I get out from work.I'm going to give rasp a shot tonight, and then the other flavors again.... It sucks because $12 for 250g of shitty stuff sucks =/.Anyways, I think I'm going to go back to SB and AA and other stuff, but I really wish they would come a little bit unwashed so I could get a buzz.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Try layalina?That's unwashed and it's considered a primium tobacco.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altron Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 yea I've tried it, pretty good, but I don't get the same buzz. Maybe I'll try a few different flavors then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 If your looking to seriously increase buzz......Might be worth getting hold of something like nakhla nazgoul(sp?) which is a non flavour, very strong, tobacco.Mix it up with something supidly wet... like layalina... leave it a few hours, then smoke the mix. maybe 50/50.I'm sure that would get you that nicotine buzzola JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altron Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 yea I was thinking about doing that right now actually, so maybe I'll pick up some Nakhla Double Apple and mix it with something nice tonight .But I think my hookah sucks, so another problem arises.. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUSEAN1 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 are you making sure the coals are lit fully, if there are still black spots on it then it can affect the taste of the shisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altron Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 i'll make sure that they are next time, I usually just wait until it's done sparking. I think I'm going to pack a bowl and stuff soon at work and just go outside and test out a few things even though its windy as hell.Maybe box my car or somethin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy02 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 QUOTE (Altron @ Apr 13 2007, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i'll make sure that they are next time, I usually just wait until it's done sparking. I think I'm going to pack a bowl and stuff soon at work and just go outside and test out a few things even though its windy as hell.Maybe box my car or somethin. with the 3 kings, wait until its done sparking, then blow on it a few times til the whole thing is glowing red, then its good to go. If you don't have it fully glowing it can really effect the taste b/c all the chemicals haven't been burned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuxOR541 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Yeah, and you also might actually be using too much heat for AF or havana. As long as you are filling the bowl pretty close to the foil, I have always used only 1 3 kings with AF or havana and gotten good clouds and flavor. if you leave a lot of air gap, then 2 might be appropriate, but try one. Get the whole thing cherry red and plop it down near the edge. If it needs a bit of help, plop a windocover on there to keep the heat insulated, and that should get it going. Once it's going good, take the windcover off and you should be good to go.AF orange is usually a really good flavor. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altron Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'm going to try this out in a few days... my lungs and chest are killing me (I need to stop smoking cigs).I'm going to clean my hookah throughly and only use one coal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafesaden Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 QUOTE (LuxOR541 @ Apr 13 2007, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah, and you also might actually be using too much heat for AF or havana. As long as you are filling the bowl pretty close to the foil, I have always used only 1 3 kings with AF or havana and gotten good clouds and flavor. if you leave a lot of air gap, then 2 might be appropriate, but try one. Get the whole thing cherry red and plop it down near the edge. If it needs a bit of help, plop a windocover on there to keep the heat insulated, and that should get it going. Once it's going good, take the windcover off and you should be good to go.AF orange is usually a really good flavor. Nickyeah seriously af orange is the only af flavor i like hahatry this:if you think about the proccess of 'acclimating' shisha then you must also do a quick-acclimate with the coals. wait till the coals are red hot, put them on and let them sit for about 3 minutes, ash them, then rotate them on the bowl so they are on a new spot. wait 3 minutes then start hitting it. I know this proccess takes a while, but I have had great success doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altron Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 awsome, I will def try that tonight when I go to this party.Also, I removed the metal x's in my valves which caught the ball bearings for the auto seal, but it probably lowered the amount of smoke I was able to draw. Also I throughly cleaned my hookah out, so there isnt crap in there anymore. So now I will be able to get straight shisha flavor.Thanks for the advice guys, hopefully everything works out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altron Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Trying it out in 15 mins at work with a few co-workers .Getting everyone to smoke shisha hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUSEAN1 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 QUOTE (Altron @ Apr 13 2007, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm going to try this out in a few days... my lungs and chest are killing me (I need to stop smoking cigs).I'm going to clean my hookah throughly and only use one coalim sure the cigs dont help the taste buds either, tht could be a problem. did things work better with our advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altron Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 I just went out with my co-workers on a nice day and lit it up.Not really anything different, still not like a full blast of flavor, still didn't taste that good, but got me feeling good so thats alright.My friend gave me a 50g package of romman to try. I'm going to hit it up after we get at some pizza.If its a bad batch or whether its the actual flavor, I'm not buying either brand again. I'm going to order 3 tubs of SB today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altron Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 mmmm... smoked 2 more bowls.didn't taste good. acclimated both the coal and the shisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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